hoby141 Senior Member Joined: 31 Dec 2012 Posts: 2 Location: UK Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:51am Subject: Difference between espresso and moka pot coffee.
I currently use a moka pot to brew coffee but I was thinking about buying a gaggia new baby and am wondering how the coffee would be compared to a moka pot? Also I was wondering how much electricity espresso machines use?
takeshi Senior Member Joined: 12 Oct 2002 Posts: 731 Location: Houston Expertise: I live coffee
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Posted Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:21am Subject: Re: Difference between espresso and moka pot coffee.
Are there any places near you that serve espresso? Tasting it would best answer your question. Moka's like strong coffee but it's definitely not espresso.
hoby141 Senior Member Joined: 31 Dec 2012 Posts: 2 Location: UK Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:10pm Subject: Re: Difference between espresso and moka pot coffee.
Can I only make espresso with the gaggia new baby because I wanted to make cappuccinos and lattes. How smooth is the coffees from an espresso? because i seem to get very bitter and somewhat burnt coffee from my moka pot.
CMIN Senior Member Joined: 14 Jun 2012 Posts: 505 Location: South FL Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: Crossland CC1 Grinder: Baratza Preciso
Posted Mon Dec 31, 2012, 1:18pm Subject: Re: Difference between espresso and moka pot coffee.
hoby141 Said:
Can I only make espresso with the gaggia new baby because I wanted to make cappuccinos and lattes. How smooth is the coffees from an espresso? because i seem to get very bitter and somewhat burnt coffee from my moka pot.
What beans are you using, just like espresso or any coffee, need fresh beans ground right before use. I love Moka coffee and never got "burnt" taste from it, depends on type of bean/blend too, though it could happen if not right amount of grounds or water used (Moka pots can be picky there). Espresso is like a more concentrated form of it, that little cup packs a wallop of flavors.
Can still make your milk drinks on the Gaggia since you can steam milk, so your set there for your lattes. However your going to need an espresso capable grinder, and learning a bunch of new techniques like how to dose, tamp, temp surf (which you can read up on since the Gaggia doesn't come with PID to keep consistent stable temp).
Markarian Senior Member Joined: 27 Jun 2012 Posts: 474 Location: Seattle Area Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Modded Nuova Simonelli Oscar Grinder: Vario-W, Mazzer Super Jolly Drip: Moka, Aeropress, Melitta 102 Roaster: Wear-Ever Popcorn Pumper
Posted Mon Dec 31, 2012, 7:04pm Subject: Re: Difference between espresso and moka pot coffee.
Espresso is stronger and oilier, and has a much thicker crema on top. The crema is a pillow of coffee oil emulsions, mixed with CO2 gas, that produces that signature golden cap. I love moka as well, but now only use one made from stainless steel, as the original aluminum ones add a really metallic taste to the coffee. Moka, to me, is the halfway point between drip and espresso.
NobbyR Senior Member Joined: 10 Jul 2011 Posts: 1,612 Location: Germany Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Poccino Opus One, Ariete Grinder: Eureka Mignon Istantaneo,... Vac Pot: N/A Drip: Melitta Linea Unica de Luxe Roaster: N/A
Posted Tue Jan 1, 2013, 12:55am Subject: Re: Difference between espresso and moka pot coffee.
The major differences between espresso brewed with a portafilter machine and coffee made with a moka pot are brewing temperature and brewing pressure. Espresso is made at 192 to 200°F and around 9 bar, moka at boiling temperature and around 1.5 bar, which is why it has a slightly burnt taste and no real crema.
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