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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2011, 8:36am
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DigiManTX Said:

I plan on getting one of these ordered this Friday if everything goes the way it should. I will be reporting back with my findings as soon as I get to play with it... :D

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Great!
Could you please post a video of your machine pulling a shot from start to finish?

It's not that I doubt that you are really buying one of these machines, and that I need proof,
it's that I have my suspicions about the shots blonding early with this machine and would like to be able, finally, to see a shot being pulled from the beginning all the way to the end.
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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2011, 8:45am
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germantownrob Said:

The Oscar is really just 2" wider and 3" deeper then the cc1 but in reality it seems very big sitting on the counter.

The cc1 is the same price as the Silvia? Who would buy a Silvia anymore?

Posted July 10, 2011 link

Silvia = brass boiler.

CC1 = stainless steel boiler.

Personally, I'd rather spend a few hundred dollars more and get something better like an entry level HX or perhaps even the Breville BES900(XL) if it turns out the way people are hoping (I'm guessing this will depend on who they get to manufacture the machine).  If you're going to spend a big chunk of change you're better off doing it right, but if the choices are those two then I think I'd rather have a PID'd Silvia.
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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2011, 11:52am
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psychobrew Said:

Silvia = brass boiler.

CC1 = stainless steel boiler.

Personally, I'd rather spend a few hundred dollars more and get something better like an entry level HX or perhaps even the Breville BES900(XL) if it turns out the way people are hoping (I'm guessing this will depend on who they get to manufacture the machine).  If you're going to spend a big chunk of change you're better off doing it right, but if the choices are those two then I think I'd rather have a PID'd Silvia.

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a PID'd Silvia is not the same price as the CC1... is a couple hundred dollars more... is a brass boiler going to make that much of a difference?
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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2011, 2:52pm
Subject: Re: Any one here have a Crossland CC1 yet?
 

psychobrew Said:

Silvia = brass boiler.

CC1 = stainless steel boiler.

Personally, I'd rather spend a few hundred dollars more and get something better like an entry level HX or perhaps even the Breville BES900(XL) if it turns out the way people are hoping (I'm guessing this will depend on who they get to manufacture the machine).  If you're going to spend a big chunk of change you're better off doing it right, but if the choices are those two then I think I'd rather have a PID'd Silvia.

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So stainless steel is no good for boilers? Why do you think this? If it is such a bad material then I guess owners of the Speedsters all rip out the SS boilers and put brass ones in.   http://www.keesvanderwesten.com/speedster_features.html    Here is a list that was started at HB of machines with SS boiler   Click Here (www.home-barista.com)   and here is the Cimbali Junior Casa DT1 over at Chris' with one.   http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/espresso/juniord

The biggest problem with SBDU machines is the waiting to go between steam and brew, the cc1 you can't brew and steam at the same time but at least with the thermoblock steam can be done with no waiting. The Silvano you can steam and pull a shot at the same time.
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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2011, 5:04pm
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germantownrob Said:

So stainless steel is no good for boilers? Why do you think this? If it is such a bad material then I guess owners of the Speedsters all rip out the SS boilers and put brass ones in.   http://www.keesvanderwesten.com/speedster_features.html    Here is a list that was started at HB of machines with SS boiler   Click Here (www.home-barista.com)   and here is the Cimbali Junior Casa DT1 over at Chris' with one.   http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/espresso/juniord

The biggest problem with SBDU machines is the waiting to go between steam and brew, the cc1 you can't brew and steam at the same time but at least with the thermoblock steam can be done with no waiting. The Silvano you can steam and pull a shot at the same time.

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I never said stainless steel was a bad metal for a boiler, though given the choice I'd choose brass (all else being equal).
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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2011, 9:04pm
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psychobrew Said:

I never said stainless steel was a bad metal for a boiler, though given the choice I'd choose brass (all else being equal).

Posted July 11, 2011 link

The boiler in the Crossland is insulated so it should make the difference less of a issue.

 
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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2011, 9:25pm
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germantownrob Said:

The biggest problem with SBDU machines is the waiting to go between steam and brew, the cc1 you can't brew and steam at the same time but at least with the thermoblock steam can be done with no waiting. ....

Posted July 11, 2011 link

And, of course, the reverse is true since the steam function does not affect the brew temperature, you can pull shots right after steaming. If you have been using a SBDU  machine for any length of time, discarding teh brew-steam-brew process that is necessary with a SBDU is a welcome thing and immediately addictive.

 
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011, 8:46pm
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DigiManTX Said:

I plan on getting one of these ordered this Friday if everything goes the way it should. I will be reporting back with my findings as soon as I get to play with it... :D

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I'll do my best to wait patiently. Of course you could have it shipped it to me first to play with. Then i'll send it to you. Should only take a day or two. =]
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Posted Wed Jul 20, 2011, 12:55pm
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Sorry about not posting sooner. Things did not go the way they should (do they ever? ugghhh...). I was only able to spare about half the cost of everything I needed, but I will try again next payday (7/29). Wish me luck!
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Posted Fri Jul 22, 2011, 5:07pm
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DigiManTX Said:

Sorry about not posting sooner. Things did not go the way they should (do they ever? ugghhh...). I was only able to spare about half the cost of everything I needed, but I will try again next payday (7/29). Wish me luck!

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I hope it works out and you can buy your new toy. UPS delivered mine today.
Overtime was offered again. I ordered mine the night I set my OT hours for this month.

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