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sosha
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Posted Tue Dec 25, 2012, 12:20pm
Subject: Leave portafilter on?
 

Should it remain locked on when the machine is not in use?
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Posted Tue Dec 25, 2012, 12:50pm
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sosha Said:

Should it remain locked on when the machine is not in use?

Posted December 25, 2012 link

That depends on the machine.  It seems most people do not leave it on, so that the gasket/seal doesn't wear out as quick.

I keep mine on the FFX3 without the basket so it doesn't affect the gasket.  But on the others I've had I haven't kept it attached.

 
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Posted Tue Dec 25, 2012, 2:34pm
Subject: Re: Leave portafilter on?
 

I leave mine on so that it's nice and hot when I fill it and pull my shots.  I don't worry about the gasket because I change it annually anyways.

 
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Posted Tue Dec 25, 2012, 3:10pm
Subject: Re: Leave portafilter on?
 

+1 emradguy

I leave mine on as well. If you leave it off, the portafilter will not be at the same temp as the grouphead when you pull your shot. I have not seen any problem doing this, but I change my gasket annually so that it is easier to remove all the old gasket (it doesn't tend to stick as much)

 
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Posted Tue Dec 25, 2012, 3:39pm
Subject: Re: Leave portafilter on?
 

+1 here as well for the same reasons. As a matter of fact, one thing I hate is when I get to the machine in the morning and discover that I had accidentally left it off. then you have to heat it, pull more blank shots and wait for it to be properly at temp.
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Posted Tue Dec 25, 2012, 5:21pm
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Leave portafilter on all the time the machine is on and always take it off when the machine is off. Change the group gasket every 6 months for an HX and every year for a twin boiler.....

If your finding the portafilter hard to lock on properly drop down 0.5mm on gasket size. e.g. Duetto owners should be using an 8mm gasket and not an 8.5, for those with the latest Duettos and portafilter baskets, this is even more important.....for some reasons pretty much all manufacturers use a group gasket thicker than ideal. I've no idea why, perhaps the manufacturers tell them this is the best size?
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Posted Tue Dec 25, 2012, 6:48pm
Subject: Re: Leave portafilter on?
 

Thanks for the feedback.

I've been leaving it off when not it use.   Makes sense to me, but I've read people ALWAYS leave it on.

Took the brew head off the Silvia for the first time (2 years.....).   Man, that was disgusting.   No wonder things were tasting funky.   Ordered a new gasket, as I will need to find a chisel for removal.   Got to do this more often.     I backflush regularly, but that's obviously not enough.
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Posted Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:22am
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I did that once too. After you scrape off a dried out caked on gasket once you'll be very conscious to change it out regularly!

 
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Posted Wed Dec 26, 2012, 7:59am
Subject: Re: Leave portafilter on?
 

emradguy Said:

I did that once too. After you scrape off a dried out caked on gasket once you'll be very conscious to change it jut regularly!

Posted December 26, 2012 link

Hoping I won't need power tools.....
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Posted Wed Dec 26, 2012, 8:10am
Subject: Re: Leave portafilter on?
 

No, you won't but it is a major PIA and takes a long time to get all the residual bits off - though I suppose that may depend on how caked on it is.  My first one took me about 2 hours, because I did like you and waited a couple/few years before realizing it was necessary. but now they take like...oh, about 5 minutes or less.

 
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