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cuznvin
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Posted Mon Dec 24, 2012, 7:37am
Subject: Descaling....
 

After reading some instructions on how to Descale a DB and HX machine, I am second guessing my machine choices.  This doesnt look like something I want to get involved with. SO, now I am considering the Breville DB. One descaling every four years by bringing it to a service center.  I really didnt want to go with the Breville but I dont think I can do this procedure every three months or pay someone to do it for me every 3 months!! Thoughts?
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Posted Mon Dec 24, 2012, 7:41am
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I control the water, using soft bottled water with low TDS. I check the lines every 6 months or so, but there's been no need to descale yet on my current machine after 2 years.

I would do the same, even if I had a BDB.

 
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Posted Mon Dec 24, 2012, 7:58am
Subject: Re: Descaling....
 

I agree with Jon, control your water input and the descale won't be required so often. I live in a relatively soft water area but I still run all my coffee water through a Brita filter. I'm descaling about once every two to three years on a 8 year old Anita HX. It really isn't that hard and gets the cover off so I can check under the hood so to speak.

I'm wondering what is so different with the Breville that it would only require descaling every four years when other machines would require it every three months. Does the Breville have an extra strong long lasting ION exchange bed or maybe Breville feels more frequent descaling is counter productive, more damage to the internals taking it apart than the scale in the boiler?

If you change your mind, buy a LED inspection lamp on a long goose neck and after about three months of use come back here and we'll tell you how to open and inspect the boiler for scale.
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Posted Mon Dec 24, 2012, 8:05am
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flathead1 Said:

I agree with Jon, control your water input and the descale won't be required so often. I live in a relatively soft water area but I still run all my coffee water through a Brita filter. I'm descaling about once every two to three years on a 8 year old Anita HX. It really isn't that hard and gets the cover off so I can check under the hood so to speak.

I'm wondering what is so different with the Breville that it would only require descaling every four years when other machines would require it every three months. Does the Breville have an extra strong long lasting ION exchange bed or maybe Breville feels more frequent descaling is counter productive, more damage to the internals taking it apart than the scale in the boiler?

If you change your mind, buy a LED inspection lamp on a long goose neck and after about three months of use come back here and we'll tell you how to open and inspect the boiler for scale.

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Cool ! Thanks so much... SO how do I know how much TDS my water has? Will running water through a brita remove the minerals in the water? I do have a military grade under sink water filter that I can get installed.
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Posted Mon Dec 24, 2012, 8:14am
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This is a link to the water report for the town I live in:

Click Here (65.36.213.246)
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Posted Mon Dec 24, 2012, 8:41am
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The water company said we have soft to very soft water. TDS less than 3 grains??? The report shows a range of 8 to 370 TDS
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Posted Mon Dec 24, 2012, 4:56pm
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Really don't worry about descaling. It is not at all difficult, and really does not take that long. Don't make a machine choice based on that alone.

 
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