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Jarmo
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Posted Sun Dec 23, 2012, 1:17am
Subject: semiautomatic / no milk
 

Sorry if this has already been discussed somewhere but:

I need to get a semi-automatic espresso machine but I have no use for the milk part (due to lactose intolorance).
We would only like to make espressos and ristrettos, maximum 6 in a row but usually just 2.
The machine may of course have milk equipments, but in comparisons with others no weight should be given to them.

I know I need a good grinder, so some money is reserved to that, but which espresso machine should I choose?

Locally I have seen advertisements of the following:

Delonghi Vintage 239Euro
Delonghi EC850M 399Euros
Rancilio Silvia 489Euro
Gaggia classic 495 Euro
Ascaso dream 585Euro
Ascasa Steel Uno Prof 649Euro

The last one is probably the maximum in my budget.

Is any one of these suitable/recommended, or are there perhaps semi-automatic machines without a milk section
with better quality/price ratio?
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NobbyR
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Espresso: Poccino Opus One, Ariete
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Posted Sun Dec 23, 2012, 3:24am
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Welcome to CoffeeGeek!

Lactose intolerance is no reason to completely disregard espresso based milk drinks, because you can use lactose free milk or even soy milk to make cappuccinos or lattes as well.

As far as I know all espresso machines have a steam wand. But if you're really going to make only espressos and ristrettos, a SBDU machine will indeed suffice. Out of the machines you mentioned the Ascaso Steel Uno Prof will probably be the best, if you decide to take the model that comes equipped with a PID ex factory. Apart from that the Ascaso might be considered equal to the Rancilio Silvia, being the Spanish version so to speak.

 
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Jarmo
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Posted Mon Dec 24, 2012, 9:14am
Subject: Re: semiautomatic / no milk
 

NobbyR Said:

Welcome to CoffeeGeek!

Posted December 23, 2012 link

Thanks, and Seasons Greetings!

NobbyR Said:

Lactose intolerance is no reason to completely disregard espresso based milk drinks, because you can use lactose free milk or even soy milk to make cappuccinos or lattes as well.

Posted December 23, 2012 link

True, but when I started drinking coffee more that 40 years ago there were no other options. I did not fee good after coffee and milk so I slowly developed an aversion to the combination.
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NobbyR Said:

As far as I know all espresso machines have a steam wand. But if you're really going to make only espressos and ristrettos, a SBDU machine will indeed suffice. Out of the machines you mentioned the Ascaso Steel Uno Prof will probably be the best, if you decide to take the model that comes equipped with a PID ex factory. Apart from that the Ascaso might be considered equal to the Rancilio Silvia, being the Spanish version so to speak.

Posted December 23, 2012 link

OK. The Ascaso does not seem to have a PID, so maybe I will choose Rancilio Silvia. It seems to be quite popular and maybe I can install a PID later. And I can invest the price difference to the grinder.
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Grinder: Eureka Mignon Istantaneo
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Drip: Melitta Linea Unica de Luxe
Roaster: N/A
Posted Wed Dec 26, 2012, 3:56am
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Jarmo Said:

... The Ascaso does not seem to have a PID, ...

Posted December 24, 2012 link

Thanks for your Seasons Greeting. I hope you're enjoying the holidays as well.

But there is a PIDed model: click here.

 
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