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NobbyR
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Joined: 10 Jul 2011
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Location: Germany
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Poccino Opus One, Ariete
Grinder: Eureka Mignon Istantaneo
Vac Pot: N/A
Drip: Melitta Linea Unica de Luxe
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Posted Fri Dec 14, 2012, 7:24am
Subject: Re: I'm LOST!
 

Did we scare him off? I'm sorry, if we did.

 
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"This drink of the Satan is so delicious that it would be a shame to leave it to the infidels." (Pope Clement VIII on coffee, when he was urged to ban the beverage)
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emradguy
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Joined: 31 Mar 2011
Posts: 3,172
Location: Houston
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: Duetto II; Twist v2
Grinder: M Major, Macap M4, Pharos,...
Drip: Espro presses; Aeropress
Roaster: H-B "List of Favorites"
Posted Fri Dec 14, 2012, 8:05am
Subject: Re: I'm LOST!
 

If so, I'm sure my post contributed to that...and maybe I could have said it nicer...but the general message would have been the same.

Some people come here thinking making espresso is only slightly more advanced than scooping coffee grounds from a can and pouring hot water over them...and that's fine.  I'm happy to help guide them to reality.

...but when they come here with some preconceived notion like that with plans to open a cafe, thinking voila, the masses will flock to them...it really irks me!  If anything, what I really want to know most is exactly where they are opening and what they're called, so I know not to waste my time going there.  

Well, anyhow...that's just my perspective.  For the most part, I try very hard to avoid getting sucked into these threads. If he comes back, I will try even harder to keep my mouth shut, so you nicer guys can give him the help he needs/wants.

 
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NobbyR
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NobbyR
Joined: 10 Jul 2011
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Location: Germany
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Poccino Opus One, Ariete
Grinder: Eureka Mignon Istantaneo
Vac Pot: N/A
Drip: Melitta Linea Unica de Luxe
Roaster: N/A
Posted Fri Dec 14, 2012, 8:30am
Subject: Re: I'm LOST!
 

emradguy Said:

... I'm happy to help guide them to reality ...

Posted December 14, 2012 link

Well, Ron, I guess we all tried to bring him back down to earth. You were just a little blunt, but the message was basically the same as mine, Wayne's or Jason's, and I think it was good advise. However, the gastronomic world needs good coffee shops, because there's too much dishwater being sold as specialty coffee out there. Maybe we can help this restaurant on the way to better espresso.

That's why I would find it a pity if we scared him away.

 
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emradguy
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Location: Houston
Expertise: I live coffee

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Grinder: M Major, Macap M4, Pharos,...
Drip: Espro presses; Aeropress
Roaster: H-B "List of Favorites"
Posted Fri Dec 14, 2012, 9:14am
Subject: Re: I'm LOST!
 

Thanks for the encouragement Nobby.  You are right, you know, to try to improve at the ground stage.  I have been working on the blunt issue for years now.  Fortunately, I've been able to pretty much remove it completely from my work environment.

 
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stefano65
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Posted Fri Dec 14, 2012, 9:37am
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if possible
contact  several LOCAL roasters,
try their coffee then
ask about what equipment they have, or they suggest then most of all ask if they know how to repair it,

a knowledgeable and close by tech when in need:
priceless!

 
Stefano Cremonesi
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crazy4espresso
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Location: Toronto
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Silvia, La Pavoni...
Grinder: Pharos
Posted Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:32pm
Subject: Re: I'm LOST!
 

Looks like you guys scared him off.  It's not surprising that this coffee venture was considered an "aside" as it seems the main focus was probably on the restaurant, being a kind of dual business, and under the assumption that the coffee bar was the simpler of the two to get going.  Most businesses I walk into where coffee is served, the owners don't have the first clue about what good espresso is, they simply teamed up with a coffee/equipment supplier who set everything up and provided a bit of training.  That seems to be good enough for them, but to someone like myself the experience is usually unsatisfactory. How could it be anything else when this is the approach?  In this case there isn't even a supplier in the picture! What's left? Well, coming on a site like this and asking what the best machine is.  That's akin to an artist with absolutely no experience asking for the best paint and brushes, and proceeding to try and create a masterpiece.
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