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g00py
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Posted Tue Dec 4, 2012, 5:47am
Subject: ESAM3300 Magnifica or Gaggia Classic
 

I have a local pastor I know selling a Magnifica ESAM 3300 for $300-350. It was purchased 7/2011 so about a year and half old, works fine. Warranty isn't transferable. I don't have a grinder so I'd be getting that next month. My biggest worry is the durability of something like the Magnifica, the reviews were mostly great on amazon and here, but some spotted longevity issues as it is a superauto.


Skill Level: Beginner. I'm experienced with teas, but not with espresso.

Purpose: I drink almost exclusively lattes or americano. Not sure I've ever had espresso straight. I doubt I could notice a 10-20% variance in flavor for a while.

Questions:

Would a Gaggia Classic from amazon + grinder (next month) be a better long term option than a Magnifica or do you think I would be fine with a Magnifica for quite a while? I like the idea of saving $200 on buying another grinder and just using the Magnifica's, but am gun shy on it being a money pit. :-)

Are they truly a moneypit and nearly impossible to repair? I'm in houston so I guess there would be someone who could do repairs locally.

How much more time does a Gaggia classic with a seperate grinder take to prepare a double shot compared to a Magnifica?
Thanks for the tips for a newb.
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Posted Tue Dec 4, 2012, 9:59am
Subject: Re: ESAM3300 Magnifica or Gaggia Classic
 

I have no experience with the Magnifica so I'll just answer the very last part of your question-

Assuming that the machine is preheated..... I can make a latte using the Classic in less than 5 minutes. I do it the slow way- I hand pour beans into my grinder, grind them, put them in the portafilter, tamp, clean up, pull two shots.

Generally during the pull I grab milk from the fridge and put it in the pitcher. When the shot is done I flip the switch for steam, wait about 30 seconds then steam milk. Takes about a minute to steam up the milk, then I put my drink together.

You could rush through it faster- but the routine I use keeps things consistent and keeps me paying attention to what's going on with my drink. Besides, it's part of the fun.

Enjoy whatever you get. Just make sure you splurge on a good grinder if you get a Classic or you will be disappointed in the machine.
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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:31am
Subject: Re: ESAM3300 Magnifica or Gaggia Classic
 

g00py Said:

Would a Gaggia Classic from amazon + grinder (next month) be a better long term option than a Magnifica or do you think I would be fine with a Magnifica for quite a while? I like the idea of saving $200 on buying another grinder and just using the Magnifica's, but am gun shy on it being a money pit. :-)

Are they truly a moneypit and nearly impossible to repair? I'm in houston so I guess there would be someone who could do repairs locally.

How much more time does a Gaggia classic with a seperate grinder take to prepare a double shot compared to a Magnifica?
Thanks for the tips for a newb.

Posted December 4, 2012 link

IMO, any decent machine such as a Gaggia, and a proper espresso grinder will make a much better drink, or straight espresso than a $2000 Super Auto.
And YES, SA's cannot 9usually) be home serviced, but must be returned. There goes $100 shipping back and forth.
MOST machines such as a Gaggia, Silvia, and up to HX machines (Heat exchanger, you don't have to wait to steam) can be serviced at home. parts are plentiful, and most parts replacements are DIY.

An excellent grinder can be had for $250 and up. Many here have had excellent results with a $250-$350 grinder and a $400 machine. Add $75 for a proper tamper, cleaning supplies, milk pitcher. Many here also purchase a "Bottomless" portafilter (about $60) which allows you to see your pour, so you can spot any problems with channelling, etc.

Do yourself a favor, peruse our Grinder and machine Consumer Reviews, and feel free to ask more ON TOPIC questions on this thread.

 
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