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dagoat
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Espresso: BDB (Breville Dual Boiler...
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Drip: manual
Roaster: cafe rosto

Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013, 6:59pm Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

doc, for better or for worse, the BDB is drawing a HUGE number of newbies asking not just BDB-specific questions but fair dinkum, newbie barista questions. sounds like you are feeling some of the frustration of the constant barrage of such questions. we all do, from time to time. including richard/bubbadude. i don't think it's too out of line for one of the more knowledgeable types to gruff a little before or after answering another newbie question for the umpteenth time... or lay low and not answer at all for a while. that's what i do. i ignore questions all the time that i have answers for, until, or unless the mood tickles me to say something. sooo, pictures of the BDB gasket, eh? you mean like the picture AM (Anger Management) put up on the crema forums just TODAY? -peter

BubbaDude
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Location: Frisco Bay
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Espresso: Breville Dual Boiler
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Drip: Clever Coffee Dripper
Roaster: Hottop 2KB

Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013, 7:14pm Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

dagoat Said: sooo, pictures of the BDB gasket, eh? you mean like the picture AM (Anger Management) put up on the crema forums just TODAY? -peter Posted January 22, 2013 link Please don't be specific, it spoils the "doctor's" fun. He and that other character (the one who tried to poison us with his DIY anti-scaling technique) like to leave 'em guessing when they imply that the BDB emits nuclear radiation. Is it legal to link to that forum?

"I've Scaced many HX/E61 machines, seeing shot variances of up to 8-10F or more. [The BDB] stays within 1F." - Mark Prince

PrescottCR
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Joined: 19 Dec 2012
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Location: Prescott
Expertise: Pro Roaster

Espresso: Breville
Grinder: Baratza
Roaster: Diedrich

Posted Wed Jan 23, 2013, 7:52am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

benpiff Said:

...... What are your most successful PID settings for various roasts?

Posted January 22, 2013 link

I start with 203 for any very light roasts and 193 for any real dark roasts. That seems to work out well. For example, I roasted a Tanzania Pea Berry very light, where it was just shy of the second crack. I would *NEVER* recommend anyone pulling shots with that. Still, I tried it with the Breville pretty hot, 203 and it was wonderful.

Likewise with a very dark roast. I tried them in the low 190s and was pleasantly surprised that I could enjoy them.

That's just my personal guidelines. I generally avoid generalities (ha) but that's a good place to start. YMMV.

Contrabass_Bry
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Location: Omaha
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Espresso: Breville BES900XL
Grinder: OE Pharos

Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:17am Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

Just got the BDB last night. One niggle is the steam generation. It's a little light, but I can work with it. The real problem is that the steam isn't very dry. I has a rapid, periodic kind of chug (like a bead of water that keeps getting churned somewhere in the wand) that seems to spit out quite a bit of water. Anyone else have this issue or see a solution? Even clearing the wand does not keep this from re-occurring. Didn't quite get the Pharos dialed-in in the short time I spent with the machine. Did manage a 35sec shot (6sec pre-infusion @ 200deg) that measured 36g from 18g of Barefoot Redcab that was 13 days old. Crema was not very long lasting (likely a function of it's age.) Tasted the same as it did brewed in a Moka Pot...punchy and bright. How low of a dose has anyone gone with the double basket? I would LOVE some advice on a "classic" espresso flavor profile blend (syrupy body, choc/caramel flavor). I think the Redcab may be brighter than I am accustomed. It would help me adjust if I knew what I was tasting for. This "brighter" flavor profile is not jibing with me currently. Thanks in advance. Bryan

BubbaDude
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Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 6:21pm Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

Contrabass_Bry Said: I would LOVE some advice on a "classic" espresso flavor profile blend (syrupy body, choc/caramel flavor). I think the Redcab may be brighter than I am accustomed. It would help me adjust if I knew what I was tasting for. This "brighter" flavor profile is not jibing with me currently. Posted January 24, 2013 link You can significantly alter the flavor profile of your shots by changing the brew temp on your BDB (welcome to the club, BTW.) Try both a higher temp - say, 2 degrees higher than where you are - and a lower temp, four degrees down from the high one, and you'll be amazed by the difference.

"I've Scaced many HX/E61 machines, seeing shot variances of up to 8-10F or more. [The BDB] stays within 1F." - Mark Prince

lowespresso
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Joined: 10 Jan 2013
Posts: 9
Location: california
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: Breville Dual Boiler
Grinder: Solis Maestro
Roaster: i-Roast 2

Posted Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:11pm Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

Hi. Another new BDB owner. Thanks for all the info posted here on CG. I'm enjoying my new espresso machine and am starting to get pretty good results. I got the Breville naked portafilter and a ridgeless VST 18 basket. I like this basket as I can tamp without the tamper hitting the tapered narrow diameters of the stock baskets. I wasn't able to get good microfoam steaming milk until I tried plugging two of the three holes on the steaming wand as someone mentioned; now it's easy to get great microfoam for my cappuccinos. In case any new owners wonder how to get out the black plastic insert in the OEM portafilter... I used a screw extractor and was able to get it out without scratching the portafilter. (Click for larger image)

Iluvdabean
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Roaster: Nesco 1010/Behmor 1600

Posted Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:18am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

Why would they put that in there anyways?

lowespresso Said:

Hi. Another new BDB owner. Thanks for all the info posted here on CG. I'm enjoying my new espresso machine and am starting to get pretty good results. I got the Breville naked portafilter and a ridgeless VST 18 basket. I like this basket as I can tamp without the tamper hitting the tapered narrow diameters of the stock baskets. I wasn't able to get good microfoam steaming milk until I tried plugging two of the three holes on the steaming wand as someone mentioned; now it's easy to get great microfoam for my cappuccinos. In case any new owners wonder how to get out the black plastic insert in the OEM portafilter... I used a screw extractor and was able to get it out without scratching the portafilter.

Posted January 26, 2013 link

BubbaDude
Senior Member

Posted Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:28am Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

Iluvdabean Said: Why would they put that in there anyways? Posted January 27, 2013 link They know some people like to tinker, so they gave us a puzzle to solve.

"I've Scaced many HX/E61 machines, seeing shot variances of up to 8-10F or more. [The BDB] stays within 1F." - Mark Prince

TheSunInsideYou
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Joined: 16 Feb 2012
Posts: 182
Location: NJ and NYC
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: Breville BES900XL
Grinder: Laranzato HC-600, OE LIDO,...
Vac Pot: Yama 3
Drip: Hario V60, Chemex

Posted Sun Jan 27, 2013, 3:51pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

Contrabass_Bry Said:

Just got the BDB last night.

One niggle is the steam generation. It's a little light, but I can work with it. The real problem is that the steam isn't very dry. I has a rapid, periodic kind of chug (like a bead of water that keeps getting churned somewhere in the wand) that seems to spit out quite a bit of water. Anyone else have this issue or see a solution?

Posted January 24, 2013 link

Welcome to the club, friend. I never had this issue. My steam has been dry from the start. Did you wait for it to heat up all the way before using it? I would contact Breville if you keep having issues.

Contrabass_Bry Said:

I would LOVE some advice on a "classic" espresso flavor profile blend (syrupy body, choc/caramel flavor). I think the Redcab may be brighter than I am accustomed. It would help me adjust if I knew what I was tasting for. This "brighter" flavor profile is not jibing with me currently.

Posted January 24, 2013 link

Perhaps, not necessarily the correct subject to be posting this question under, but it's in context enough. Haha. BubbaDude is dead on with the temp suggestion. If you still don't find Redcab to your liking, I would suggest checking out Counter Culture's Toscano.

-Dave-

Iluvdabean
Senior Member

Posted Sun Jan 27, 2013, 5:46pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

Fascinating...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFods1KSWsQ

BubbaDude Said:

They know some people like to tinker, so they gave us a puzzle to solve.

Posted January 27, 2013 link

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