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martigen
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Posted Tue Oct 30, 2012, 1:21pm
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I would understand if it was the grounding, but what about the Illy pre-grounded espresso? thats the one i tried at the store and it brewed perfect including the regular 25-30lbs tamping, that's why i think there's something wrong with my machine.
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Posted Tue Oct 30, 2012, 1:59pm
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Perhaps they used the pressurized basket in the store? That would give you the fake creme.

Freshly roasted beans that are ground as you use them have much better results. I tried some decaf Illy once, terrible results. Most grocery stores don't have fresh beans, you need to find a local roaster. Or get an espresso  subscription like I do.
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Posted Tue Oct 30, 2012, 2:56pm
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martigen Said:

I would understand if it was the grounding, but what about the Illy pre-grounded espresso? thats the one i tried at the store and it brewed perfect including the regular 25-30lbs tamping, that's why i think there's something wrong with my machine.

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Like above they pry used the pressurized baskets which will give fake crema even with stale beans/pre-ground, however it doesn't taste anything like real crema lol. Illy works just barely "ok" right after opening, but after that, forget about it lol.

No fresh beans ground right before using = blahhhh

But since your saying your coffee barely drips, you have it ground too fine to almost choking the machine, which is fine to start out with. B/c now you can back off going slightly coarser from that point till your shots are flowing right.
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Posted Tue Oct 30, 2012, 3:20pm
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Both your pressure reading (10 - 11) and the observed behavior say you're choking the machine. That's enough pressure to make nice rat tails through an unchoked single wall basket.

 
"I've Scaced many HX/E61 machines, seeing shot variances of up to 8-10F or more. [The BDB] stays within 1F." - Mark Prince
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Posted Tue Oct 30, 2012, 6:55pm
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martigen Said:

I would understand if it was the grounding, but what about the Illy pre-grounded espresso? thats the one i tried at the store and it brewed perfect including the regular 25-30lbs tamping, that's why i think there's something wrong with my machine.

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hi try to recall, was it the same illy you were using in the store? was it single wall basket or a dual wall basket that they were using
as far as the manual said if your using dual wall, no need to tamp ang no fuzz on the grind to be fine

 
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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2012, 7:59am
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Oh my goodness, I finnished up some great coffee this morning, backflushed to clean and tried to turn off the machine.... Err2 message this time instead of Err1. I am still goin with this unique problem. I have followed the recomendations from Breville and my electrician. Circuit is fine, it is on it's own outlet and there is nothing else in the house that has been scrambled. Just my BDB. I even had a whole house surge proctector installed. I am lost. I do not know if it is me, my electrical or the BDB itself, and I have run out of ideas unless Breville comes up with something.

If someone else out there is thinking "why doesn't he just do.....", then please throw it up here. other people are not having this problem. why am I?

The coffee is still great though....

wow!
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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2012, 7:00pm
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JohnLyn Said:

Oh my goodness, I finnished up some great coffee this morning, backflushed to clean and tried to turn off the machine.... Err2 message this time instead of Err1. I am still goin with this unique problem. I have followed the recomendations from Breville and my electrician. Circuit is fine, it is on it's own outlet and there is nothing else in the house that has been scrambled. Just my BDB. I even had a whole house surge proctector installed. I am lost. I do not know if it is me, my electrical or the BDB itself, and I have run out of ideas unless Breville comes up with something.

If someone else out there is thinking "why doesn't he just do.....", then please throw it up here. other people are not having this problem. why am I?

The coffee is still great though....

wow!

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hi johnlyn ive bumped into 1 other talks here about the err, i dont know if its 1 or 2, as far as i recall he said it was just a restart, but i guess you did stuff already and perhaps has included a restart, the thread should be somewhere perhaps he can give in some other stuff

 
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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:02pm
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JohnLyn I am sure you have tried a factory reset, but what the heck, I will throw it our there.
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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:08pm
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I suspect there's something in your routine that's causing the problem. Are you hitting the machines with a hammer every day?

 
"I've Scaced many HX/E61 machines, seeing shot variances of up to 8-10F or more. [The BDB] stays within 1F." - Mark Prince
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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:10pm
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New machine arrived today. Now back to getting the grind right. This machine seems to run better, no fluttering etc. Certanly makes better shots than my Saeco Aroma

I am curious. The first machine had a blind with a hole in it. When running the cleaning cycle most of the water went in the jug. With the new blind, most of the water back-flushes. I assume the back flushing method is better, but wonder why the change in philosophy?  I have one of each now, so I can do either method.
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