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Burd
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Posted Sat Sep 29, 2012, 7:57pm
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DeanOK Said:

... not sure anyone else would like it though. I have already determined that I don't like the darker roasts... so that probably automatically gets me thrown out of the espresso connoisseurs club.

Posted September 29, 2012 link

There may be a "trend" of what most people drink but you should live by the most important guide......if YOU like the taste who gives 2 cents if someone else doesn't :) , besides you have to drink it in the end.  I take all of this in and what works for me may not for someone else.

As for equipment, this is the right place to find the answers out.  I know everyone was extremely helpful when I asked a question.  It sounds like you are getting an idea of where you want to be.  Good deal!
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Espresso: breville 900
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Posted Sat Sep 29, 2012, 8:53pm
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I have the vario w and the breville 900. Could not be happier.  No regrets.  Get yourself both and then get some 17 foot ceiling espresso from blue bottle and you'll be wondering why you waited so long!
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andys
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Posted Sat Sep 29, 2012, 9:06pm
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DeanOK Said:

I have already determined that I don't like the darker roasts... so that probably automatically gets me thrown out of the espresso connoisseurs club.

Posted September 29, 2012 link

Actually the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction recently. Many people complain that the espresso they get in "third wave" cafes is roasted too light and tastes too sour.

Light roasts take more fiddling and a little more skill to extract properly. But it's all a matter of taste, of course.

 
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DeanOK
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Espresso: QM Vetrano 2B
Grinder: Vario W
Posted Sun Sep 30, 2012, 3:54am
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sn_85 Said:

You won't be able to find parts for it and you won't be able to do general maintenance on it either.  If you want to get it fixed you'll have to take it to a certified Breville servicer.  Likewise if you want to descale the machine in 5 years you'll have to take it to a service center as well.  

Posted September 29, 2012 link

This is frustrating...every part and every part number... but no way to order. the parts.....
Click Here (www.ereplacementparts.com)
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Coffeenoobie
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Posted Sun Sep 30, 2012, 10:17am
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That is one of the reasons I did not go that direction.  Just take your time, research, save your money and you will be happier with whatever you get.

 
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DeanOK
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Posted Sun Sep 30, 2012, 10:49am
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I plan on calling the Breville customer service number. If they tell me that I  can buy any part I want at a reasonable price and convince me they are being truthful, it will give them a big leg up on my decision. I actually like the look of some of the shinier chrome machines better, but they are all 60% to 100% more money and the Breville is loaded with some nice features.

I don't know anything about Beville, but if they are known for supporting their products with repair parts over the long haul, I would think it would make them a quite valuable brand in my mind.
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diggi
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Drip: Chemex, Espro Press,...
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Posted Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:05am
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DeanOK Said:

I don't know anything about Beville, but if they are known for supporting their products with repair parts over the long haul, I would think it would make them a quite valuable brand in my mind.

Posted September 30, 2012 link

LOL. Funny you should say that; because, no they are not.  They have a terrible reputation for building throw away machines with poor support, inability to fix them yourself (nonstandard sized parts).  Many believe that the dual boiler is breville's chance to change this image and so far, there are many who believe that they've placed their money in a solid company.  Likely the majority on this site would think this an unwise investment, but ultimately it is up to the one making the purchase to make this decision.  Your money; do what you want with it.  But thought you should know that this company has a less than attractive past.
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DeanOK
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Posted Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:09am
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diggi Said:

LOL. Funny you should say that; because, no they are not.

Posted September 30, 2012 link

I really do not know if I spend a $1000.00 more that I won't end up in the same place. Doesn't seem that there is any of them that go out of their way to market their product as a good investment over the long haul.
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Posted Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:13am
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DeanOK Said:

I really do not know if I spend a $1000.00 more that I won't end up in the same place. Doesn't seem that there is any of them that go out of their way to market their product as a good investment over the long haul.

Posted September 30, 2012 link

Unsure what you mean by this.  There are many companies with good reputations on this site.  Their equipment will last for years with good care and occasional repairs.  Things cost less for a reason. Do what you want, but don't fool yourself into thinking that all things are equal in terms of longevity and customer support. They are not.
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DeanOK
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Posted Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:21am
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diggi Said:

Unsure what you mean by this..

Posted September 30, 2012 link

I wasn't trying to imply that there wasn't any with a good reputation... I am just saying that most of what I have read does not address the issue of support after the sale... that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just say'n.

Maybe others that have direct knowledge of this issue with different brands will chime in and offer some more detail.
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