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cruizie
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Joined: 16 May 2012
Posts: 42
Location: Ohio
Expertise: Just starting

Espresso: La Nuovo Era Cuadra
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Roaster: Poppery

Posted Sat Sep 29, 2012, 5:31am Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

Yesterday, my latte was so much better than it had been before that I thought it was delicious. This morning I decided to sip the espresso to see what it tasted like before diluting it with milk. I thought it was terrible! It tasted really sour to me. So . . . guess I will definitely have to pick up some professionally roasted beans to see what I'm shooting for. I also don't have a palate for straight espresso but would like to develop one. I travel internationally (mostly Africa) quite a bit and I always struggle to get down the coffee the nationals make. It's SO STRONG (especially in Ethiopia)! Any ideas on where to begin? Maybe I should look for a barista course? I don't think I can learn to appreciate the taste of espresso until I learn what good espresso should taste like! I know this isn't the proper thread for this discussion so I'll start checking out some other forums.

1stline
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Joined: 24 Jan 2002
Posts: 389
Location: Freehold, NJ USA
Expertise: Professional

Espresso: Undisclosed
Grinder: Indisclosed
Vac Pot: Bodum Electric
Drip: None
Roaster: None

Posted Sat Sep 29, 2012, 7:06am Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

Hoenen Said: I have this machine as well, but I must say.. the noise it produces is so frustrating! Sounds like the whole machine is vibrating. Are there any ways to reduce this? Posted September 25, 2012 link Please try to see where the noise is coming from and let us know.

Sincerely, Jim Piccinich Business Partner 1st-line Equipment, LLC www.1st-line.com Follow us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/1stline Twitter: http://twitter.com/1stline Blog: http://1st-line.blogspot.com/ YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/1stlineespresso

1stline
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Posted Sat Sep 29, 2012, 7:07am Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

cruizie Said: Yesterday, my latte was so much better than it had been before that I thought it was delicious. This morning I decided to sip the espresso to see what it tasted like before diluting it with milk. I thought it was terrible! It tasted really sour to me. So . . . guess I will definitely have to pick up some professionally roasted beans to see what I'm shooting for. I also don't have a palate for straight espresso but would like to develop one. I travel internationally (mostly Africa) quite a bit and I always struggle to get down the coffee the nationals make. It's SO STRONG (especially in Ethiopia)! Any ideas on where to begin? Maybe I should look for a barista course? I don't think I can learn to appreciate the taste of espresso until I learn what good espresso should taste like! I know this isn't the proper thread for this discussion so I'll start checking out some other forums. Posted September 29, 2012 link Sourness can come from the bean blend, but most likely it is from not properly heating the portafilter where it is too hot to touch. In some cases, one's palette can pick up sourness more often than others.

Sincerely, Jim Piccinich Business Partner 1st-line Equipment, LLC www.1st-line.com Follow us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/1stline Twitter: http://twitter.com/1stline Blog: http://1st-line.blogspot.com/ YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/1stlineespresso

1stline
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Posted Sat Sep 29, 2012, 7:08am Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

slybarman Said: OK Jim - you shamed me into finally writing a review. Posted September 28, 2012 link Thanks!

Sincerely, Jim Piccinich Business Partner 1st-line Equipment, LLC www.1st-line.com Follow us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/1stline Twitter: http://twitter.com/1stline Blog: http://1st-line.blogspot.com/ YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/1stlineespresso

1stline
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Posted Sat Sep 29, 2012, 7:25am Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

Just as an fyi.... La Nuova Era gave us a small discount on a handful of machines that have black, red or blue side panels. The reason was that another distributor of their's in another part of the world ordered these 110v machines, but was unable to pay for them. Some have stainless frames with stainless front on drip tray (A006 models) and some have enamel painted steel frames with plastic front drip tray (A007 models). Both models have standard wands with grips (meaning they do NOT have the no burn wands). Pricing is $949 for A007 and $995 for the A006. Once they are gone, they are gone at this special pricing.

Sincerely, Jim Piccinich Business Partner 1st-line Equipment, LLC www.1st-line.com Follow us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/1stline Twitter: http://twitter.com/1stline Blog: http://1st-line.blogspot.com/ YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/1stlineespresso

LizT
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Joined: 30 Dec 2011
Posts: 3
Location: Annapolis, MD
Expertise: Just starting

Grinder: Vario

Posted Sat Sep 29, 2012, 7:28am Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

A lot of my sour/bitterness changes with the cooling flush. The first time I used the machine I didn't even know what a cooling flush was. That shot was very bitter! Now, I sometimes flush too much and seems more sour. It's been months and I'm still learning. BTW, I roast my own beans too and have started getting that down much more quickly.

cruizie
Senior Member

Joined: 16 May 2012
Posts: 42
Location: Ohio
Expertise: Just starting

Espresso: La Nuovo Era Cuadra
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Roaster: Poppery

Posted Sat Sep 29, 2012, 6:20pm Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

Jim, thanks for the info on heating the portafilter. I've been laying it on the top of the machine at night so it would warm up as the machine warms up in the morning. I didn't realize it needed to be really hot. I'll be leaving it locked in tonight and hopefully have a smoother shot in the morning. LizT, I read a post from Jim at 1st Line where he said to flush until the steam stops coming out so that's what I've been doing. Hope you're enjoying your roasting experience as much as I am. It's really been a lot of fun.

slybarman
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Joined: 3 Nov 2011
Posts: 330
Location: usa
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra
Grinder: Baratza Vario

Posted Sun Sep 30, 2012, 4:07am Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

Leave the PF loosely locked into the machine. Do yourself a big favor and buy Eric's E61 thermometer. Otherwise you are just guessing at temps. You will be much more consistent if you know the actual temp.

cruizie
Senior Member

Joined: 16 May 2012
Posts: 42
Location: Ohio
Expertise: Just starting

Espresso: La Nuovo Era Cuadra
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Roaster: Poppery

Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012, 2:10pm Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

Slybarman, I am even more confused than ever. Maybe it's just a case of this machine being too much machine for me. I thought that an HX machine was supposed to be so forgiving and I have yet to pull a good shot. They've all been either sour or bitter. Now I need to purchase a thermometer for the grouphead and then learn how to use the thermometer? Jim, I'm now leaving the portafilter in the grouphead so that it's nice and hot. I am still struggling with mostly sour shots though. Could I be flushing too much? I flush until the water dance is finished. I do live on a lake so the humidity is quite high. Could that affect things? I sure wish I could find somewhere to go and learn because all this trying to learn on the internet is giving me a headache . . . Do you know of anywhere in the midwest that I could attend a class or something? I don't need to be an expert or anything but would like to be able to pull a good shot from such a nice machine.

slybarman
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Joined: 3 Nov 2011
Posts: 330
Location: usa
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra
Grinder: Baratza Vario

Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012, 5:22pm Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

Chances are you are not flushing long enough. The 'water dance' ends at about 210 IIRC. Every second of flush after that is approx 1 degree. You want to get down to about 200.

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