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Posted Thu Aug 16, 2012, 1:03pm
Subject: Breville Barista 860 pressure gauge - which mark indicates 9 bar?
 

Hi fellow coffee geeks!

The front panel of my Breville Barista Express sports a very handy pressure gauge, but it shows no numbers - just an 'espresso range'.  Would anyone here know which mark indicates 9 bar? See pic below!

Your input would be much appreciated!

Regards,

Mike

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Posted Fri Aug 17, 2012, 10:47pm
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Nobody??? Anybody???

Come on, Phil! Be my McKnight in shining armour! I'm sure you have the low-down on this machine!

Mike
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Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 1:43am
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miched Said:

... Would anyone here know which mark indicates 9 bar? ...

Posted August 16, 2012 link

Who cares? Concentrate on extraction time and volume, and most of all on the taste in your cup. Ignore that gauge.

 
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Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 3:28am
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Hey Nobby,

I'm all for going with the taste in the cup, but as someone new to the world of espresso, I'd like to make sure that I have all the variables right, and knowing where I am on the pressure scale is a good starting point. I can play with the various factors later - right now I want to be sure I have the basics right!

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Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 3:47am
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Well, as long as your extraction parameters are right once you've dialed in your grinder (rule of thumb: 25 ml in 25 seconds for a single or 50 ml in 25 seconds for a double shot, the dose of coffee depending on your personel taste, but at least 7 g), and your espresso has a full body and tastes fine, brewing pressure will be just right as well. It's not really important if the actual pressure is 8 or 9 or 10 bar (that's probably the so called "espresso range"). That's why I said: Who cares?

The pressure gauge on your machine has no scale. It's useless.

As a newbie to the world of espresso you should concentrate on working consistently: use a scale for dosing, distribute the dose evenly, and try to tamp with equal force each and every time (which mostly means as hard as you can). Use fresh beans.

By the way, the Breville Barista Express also comes with pressurized filter baskets (dual wall filters). Don't use them, take the regular ones (single wall filters).

 
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Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 4:52am
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Thanks, Nobby!

I've found this site an incredible wealth of info! I'm getting around 60mL in 24 to 25 seconds (on the single-wall filter baskets), and am quite anal about the repeatability and consistency of everything. I can keep the pressure within one bar from shot to shot, so consistency is ok.

Just wanted to know for interest's sake.

Thanks again for everyone's valuable input!

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Mike

P.S. Where in Germany are you situated?
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Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:22pm
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miched Said:

... Where in Germany are you situated?

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In the so called Rhineland, between Cologne and Bonn.

 
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Posted Mon Aug 4, 2014, 12:36am
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sorry for bringing up this old topic.  i'm also interested.  i'm new to this kind of machine too...  i have the upgraded version - 870.
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