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CoffeeHealth
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Posted Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:27am
Subject: New Guy FINALLY bought something
 

Hi Guys and Gals:

Ok, so I read a lot of stuff and was so confused that I didn't buy anything for weeks!  I almost pulled the trigger with the Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine and Baratza Vario; but I slept on it and woke up with a self imposed reality check.

I really wanted to buy something to upgrade my Mr Coffee and 1980's Krups Espresso machine.  So I know this is far from a Coffee Geeks dream package, but I really LIKE IT, and it sure is an upgrade it quality and taste!

So here is what I bought, (feel free to shake your head and say "hummmm"):

So I brought the new Krups Combo Machine, the Krups Grinder and the Escali Scale; total cost about $300 and it looks great on the counter-top! (taste good too)


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Next, I am going to focus on the various quality roaster and their beans.

Thanks again....looking forward to the continued forum excellence!

David
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Posted Mon Aug 13, 2012, 8:10am
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At 98 views and no replies, I guess you've figured out we're all doing just what you suggested...shaking our heads goin' hmmmmn.

Yeah, far from a dream package.  We all dream about getting a GS/3 or Speedster and a Mazzer Robur E, well ok, that might be a stretch, but the package you passed on would be considered entry level (except maybe the Vario).

I truly hope you're happy with it, yeah,. really I do.  Of course, I'm now wondering how long it's going to be before you rethink your decision to pass on the Silvia/Vario combo.  In your reading here, you may have noticed that most of us would recommend a different started machine than the Silvia, but regarding espresso quality, you've basically decided (by your purchase decision) to pass on good and opt for...well, I'd rather not insult your choice.  I just hope you like your drinks.  I suspect they'll still be much better than *$$.  Strong work on the scale though!

Look at sweetmaria's for roaster info. They seem to be the most knowledgeable seller, as it's their main focus.

 
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Posted Mon Aug 13, 2012, 8:58am
Subject: Re: New Guy FINALLY bought something
 

Wow...   :-(
The grinder got 2 stars on Amazon - reason enough to have shopped elsewhere. For drip it may be OK. Just.
A Combo machine? That's the definition of how to make two kinds of bad coffee. It's a thermoblock machine.  :-/
And the scale is only accurate to 1 gram resolution which is inadequate, but with that espresso machine it will matter very little.
"Looking great on the counter-top" may be a priority, or even a consideration, but the quality of the food it produces should have come first.
Spending all the money on a better grinder and just $25 for an Aeropress would have assured that you would be making better coffee (and more consistently as well) than the outfit you just bought.

 
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Posted Mon Aug 13, 2012, 9:02am
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Good luck with it.

I'm still not sure why you asked for advice here, though, as you ignored or rejected pretty much all of it. Still, it's your wallet and your palate. As I said, good luck.
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Posted Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:05am
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There are lots of choices less expensive than Sylvia that would have been a vastly better choice but....
Good luck with what you bought, I really mean that, if you stay with coffee, I think you will feel the need to upgrade sooner rather than later.
Regardless though, fresh coffee will help a lot with getting a drinkable ...... drink.

 
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Posted Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:11am
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Shakes head and says "hummmm"

 
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Posted Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:44pm
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I guess I read the scale specs wrong.  I thought it meant 0.1 oz and 0.1 g!   Maybe it can be returned or exchanged for a better scale that weighs in 0.1 g resolution?

 
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Posted Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:47pm
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Hello All !

Thanks for the interesting words and insight.   I have started this hobby not even knowing what I don't know!  So your words do have a lot of value to me

With that said, I really enjoy my product line "upgrade"; as you know you can always buy better, and for now this is my better.  Its probably better than most but far from what true geeks would value.   It kinda like my cigar, wine, auto detailing, & astronomy hobby;  just somewhere in the middle.

As far as the beans go, I will definately purchase high quality, Geek approved beans!! (I got a coupon for that 8'Oclock Coffee !!)

I look forward to the always fun filled banter...thanks again!

David
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Posted Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:58pm
Subject: Re: New Guy FINALLY bought something
 

CoffeeHealth Said:

Hello All !

Thanks for the interesting words and insight.   I have started this hobby not even knowing what I don't know!  So your words do have a lot of value to me

With that said, I really enjoy my product line "upgrade"; as you know you can always buy better, and for now this is my better.  Its probably better than most but far from what true geeks would value.   It kinda like my cigar, wine, auto detailing, & astronomy hobby;  just somewhere in the middle.

As far as the beans go, I will definately purchase high quality, Geek approved beans!! (I got a coupon for that 8'Oclock Coffee !!)

I look forward to the always fun filled banter...thanks again!

David

Posted August 13, 2012 link

I don't think anyone on here will recommend 8'Oclock ;) , unless you want burnt stale beans lol.

Do you drink drip as well? I'm just not sure why you got that combo Krups machine when you could have gotten a decent entry level pump machine for espresso, and a pour over system like the Chemex, that would have been cheaper and better. But it is your choice and as ong as your happy then that's what matters, that grinder though got awful reviews everywhere. Pry should have stepped up to the Breville 450 or Capresso Infinity which are both under 100 but would be better and more reliable then that Krups grinder.
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Posted Mon Aug 13, 2012, 1:14pm
Subject: Re: New Guy FINALLY bought something
 

CMIN Said:

I'm just not sure why you got that combo Krups machine when you could have gotten a decent entry level pump machine for espresso, and a pour over system like the Chemex, that would have been cheaper and better...

Posted August 13, 2012 link

A $50 grinder and an Aeropress would probably beat the purchased combo.
heck... the grinder below in my collection ($20 iirc) and an Aeropress would probably beat it. But there you go. I have been through similar with folks - they ask, you take the time to explain, and they go off and do quite similar to the opposite of what you advised, or at least on a tangent to your advice.  You're left shaking your head and walking away.

Anyone ever see the poster that starts out: "Hey Earl. Look at the two......."?

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