calblacksmith Moderator Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 8,151 Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A. Expertise: I live coffee
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Posted Wed Aug 1, 2012, 4:35am Subject: Re: Line pressure pre-infusion is it worth the effort to
A plumbed in machine is much more convenient to use all the way around and the line pressure preinfusion isn't a bad thing either. When people come here seeking advice in this class machine, most of the time, I will toss in the comment about looking for a plumb in for ease of use. YMMV!!
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tedegreene Senior Member Joined: 4 Oct 2005 Posts: 164 Location: JACKSONVILLE
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Posted Sun Aug 5, 2012, 3:39pm Subject: It is worth the effort to direct plumb Alex Duetto
Line pressure pre-infusion or not, direct plumb is the way to go. I can't adequately express the joy it is to pull shot after shot while using the hot water wand prodigiously to heat, rinse and clean cups with never a thought about refilling an empty tank or dumping an overflowing drip tray. I like my machine so much I wouldn't consider "upgrading" if I hit the lottery but if a catastrophe such as a house fire or theft forced me to consider another pumper, direct connection would be number one on my list of "must have" features. It would be way ahead of a fancy group head, double boiler, full auto, pressure gauge, PID or any other bell or whistle I can think of. Now that I've experienced direct connection, I would just use another brew method until I could save enough to buy another machine with that capability. I just could't go back to filling and emptying now that I know. It's like electric windows in an automobile, I could turn a crank but why would I choose to? The difference in price or difficulty in hook up is just not worth having to deal with a significant inconvenience every day of my life. I may not drive every day but I will surely drink coffee.
Posted Mon Aug 6, 2012, 4:12am Subject: Re: Is it worth the effort to direct plumb Alex Duetto
Not having to fill a reservoir (or eliminating a shot from being disrupted because you forgot) makes plumbing worth it. If you can also properly plumb the drain you will never regret the decision. It's been about 16 months since I plumbed mine and I do not regret it at all. I just have a three gallon jug for the drain and it is still wonderful. The benefit of preinfusion is that it tends to give more even extractions and lessens sprites. Whether it improves taste? You can decide that for yourself.
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