start Senior Member Joined: 4 Aug 2012 Posts: 4 Location: thornhurst Expertise: Just starting
Posted Sat Aug 4, 2012, 7:03am Subject: francis x1
hey everybody just bought a francis on ebay and not sure if it's me or the machine that's needs help. when trying to make espresso there is a gurgling sound coming from the water reservoir. when removing the scoop after brewing there is soupy water on top of the grinds and the at the bottom the grinds are still dry. can anyone help. thanks brian
Prof Senior Member Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 631 Location: Seattle Expertise: Pro Roaster
Espresso: PV Lusso, Enrico of Italy Grinder: Pharos 696, Zass Drip: Brazen, Aeropress Roaster: Behmor, TO/SC, Poppery I
Posted Sat Aug 4, 2012, 7:40am Subject: Re: francis x1
start Said:
hey everybody just bought a francis on ebay and not sure if it's me or the machine that's needs help. when trying to make espresso there is a gurgling sound coming from the water reservoir. when removing the scoop after brewing there is soupy water on top of the grinds and the at the bottom the grinds are still dry. can anyone help. thanks brian
I have an X3, so I don't know how much help this will be.
The Francis-Francis models do continually drip, and make a dry puck an impossibility. That doesn't affect the quality of the espresso. I'm VERY pleased with that.
The gurgling sound? Maybe that's just a feature. How does the espresso taste?
cappuccinoboy Senior Member Joined: 27 Jun 2009 Posts: 789 Location: MILANO Expertise: Professional
Espresso: Milano pod, Milano fully... Grinder: grind on demand
Posted Sat Aug 4, 2012, 9:30am Subject: Re: francis x1
start Said:
hey everybody just bought a francis on ebay and not sure if it's me or the machine that's needs help. when trying to make espresso there is a gurgling sound coming from the water reservoir. when removing the scoop after brewing there is soupy water on top of the grinds and the at the bottom the grinds are still dry. can anyone help. thanks brian
When Francis Francis came to the market it did on the cheap way, with aluminum boiler and no three way solenoid, that's reason for continuous dripping; later production saw a brass boiler and threeway solenoid while I am not sure about OPV
Prof Said:
I have an X3, so I don't know how much help this will be.
The Francis-Francis models do continually drip, and make a dry puck an impossibility. That doesn't affect the quality of the espresso. I'm VERY pleased with that.
The gurgling sound? Maybe that's just a feature. How does the espresso taste?
Having no threeway it is normal that top of puck should be watery after brew while if the brew has happened grinds cannot be dry because water has been through supposedly at 9+ bar, about bitter taste you better perfect grinding ?? and your mano, because machine is perfectly capable, as most machines, to brew good espresso
start Senior Member Joined: 4 Aug 2012 Posts: 4 Location: thornhurst Expertise: Just starting
Posted Sat Aug 4, 2012, 10:34am Subject: Re: francis x1
there is no dripping not sure how that got in there but there is, i think something very wrong. there are two siphon hoses in the reservoir a long hose and a short one the long hose is the intake and the short is some kind of pressure release valve. well there is a lot of discharge pressure coming out from that short hose and it has a slight discolor to it.
redkiosk Senior Member Joined: 13 May 2012 Posts: 156 Location: Chicago Metro Area Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Illy Francis-Francis X1 Grinder: Baratza Preciso w/ Esatto... Vac Pot: Someday, very intriguing Drip: Bunn Trifecta MB Roaster: A sure path to divorce!
Posted Sat Aug 4, 2012, 11:04am Subject: Re: francis x1
What model X1 do you have? Earlier ones utilized both grounds or pods, having a dedicated portafilter for each. Later models were only either grounds or pods. If your silicone water intake hose has a filter valve on the end, give it a good cleaning or even take it off and see if the "gurgling" stops. Take care!
Jim
The pathologically precise are annoying, but right!
start Senior Member Joined: 4 Aug 2012 Posts: 4 Location: thornhurst Expertise: Just starting
Posted Sat Aug 4, 2012, 11:33am Subject: Re: francis x1
i have the model 1 with little girl on the pressure gauge. there is no filter on the intake line and there are two handles. one has interchangeable filters for one and two cups the other handle looks like it's used for pods
redkiosk Senior Member Joined: 13 May 2012 Posts: 156 Location: Chicago Metro Area Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Illy Francis-Francis X1 Grinder: Baratza Preciso w/ Esatto... Vac Pot: Someday, very intriguing Drip: Bunn Trifecta MB Roaster: A sure path to divorce!
Posted Sat Aug 4, 2012, 2:11pm Subject: Re: francis x1
I'd start with cleaning the group head screen and valve inside. My older version X1 used to get pretty crusty. Also, run some de-scaler through. Might be good idea to pop the lid and take a peak inside to check for any signs of leakage. Take care!
Jim
The pathologically precise are annoying, but right!
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