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Posted Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:00am
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ESL Said:

I would post a picture but do not know how to shrink it to acceptable size.

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Hi Eric, I use shrink pictures to resize images online. {;-)

 
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Posted Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:51am
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Thanks

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Posted Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:52am
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OUCH!  That looks like it was dropped on the drip tray legs.
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Posted Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:54am
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Another view:

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Posted Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:57am
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BLrdFX Said:

Sounds like it was damaged in shipping.  How did the exterior of the shipping box look?  Munched from dropping it??

Where did you purchase it?

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Box was perfect.  I think the welds are not well done.  The solder is too thick, especially in the middle.
I got it from Chris and will be calling in the am since they are closed for the weekend.  Their customer service has been exemplary so I am not too worried.
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Posted Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:58am
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ESL Said:

Box was perfect.  I think the welds are not well done.  The solder is too thick, especially in the middle.
I got it from Chris and will be calling in the am since they are closed for the weekend.  Their customer service has been exemplary so I am not too worried.

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I will keep my fingers crossed for you.  Amazing that the box looked good!!!??!!!
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Posted Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:24am
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That is a serious heart breaker indeed.  My current concern for you is that Chris Coffee is out of additional machines according to his website.

Please keep us posted. I hope it is resolved to your satisfaction asap.
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Posted Sun Jul 15, 2012, 1:40pm
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Read about a same issue in a Swedish coffee forum. He bought a Rocket Giotto from Bella barista in UK and when he unboxed it he saw the welds was cracked and drip tray was pointing up . Even hes second machine from Bella Barista was cracked. I believe this is a common issue w Rocket machines and they should redesign they package layout.

I hope Chris will sorted for you.
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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2012, 3:42pm
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If you don't already know this, Rocket Espresso ships the R58 (as well as their other Evoluzione models) to the US with the correct electrical plug for North America, but all of the water supply line plumbing connection are British Standard Thread (different angles, different thread pitch) which will not connect to the US plumbing lines.

The manual doesn't provide information regarding this and visually you can't tell see as the differences are subtle to the naked eye. You discover something is wrong when you try to screw in connections and discover you can only take one or two turns on the threads before they bind. The end result in stripped threads and a leaking connection.

If you hire a plumber to make this connection, it is highly unlikely they will have the very specific and rare adapter with them to change the BST (British) connection to a NPT (North American) connection. A good plumber will stop and tell you that you need this part (and finding it, obtaining it, will be challenging and time-consuming). A not-so-good plumber will try to make it work with tape and glue and you will end up with a job that is not done correctly and will be prone to leaks.

Even if you are not a do-it-yourselfer, I'd suggest getting the parts below for your plumber to use. If you are handy, doing it yourself is not that difficult with the proper parts. The setup below presumes you will be connecting your espresso machine to a water filtration system that has an output in plastic 3/8 inch tubing.

First, go to McMaster-Carr (www.mcmaster.com) and order a British Standard Threaded Brass Pipe Fitting, 1/8 Pipe Size, NPT Female X BSPT Male Adapter (part number 4860K141). This costs $4.99 and will cost another $5 for UPS ground shipping. This is the "critical part" that is hard to figure out that you need this specific part and probably can only be obtained online from a large plumbing supply warehouse.

Second, go to Home Depot and purchase a Watts Quick-Connect Adapter 1/4 in OD x 1/8 in MIP (part number PL-3004), a Watts Quick Connect Coupling 3/8 x 1/4 OD (part number PL-3021), and a Watts Quick Connect Tee Connector 3/8 in OD (part number PL-3023). Also get some plastic tubing in 3/8 in OD size and some plumbing tape.

Using some teflon tape, connect one end of the braided hose (supplied by Rocket) to the back of the machine. Connect the other end of the braided hose to your brass British Threaded to NPT Threaded adapter from McMaster-Carr. Then, again using teflon tape, connect this to your Watts PL-3004 Quick Connect Adapter. Insert in a short segment of 1/4 OD plastic tubing from this to the Watts PL-3021 Coupling which converts the 1/4 OD size up to a 3/8 OD size. Then connect your 3/8 plastic tubing and run this all the way to the water filtration system, presumably under your kitchen sink. You can tie into the output line of your water filtration system by using the Watts PL-3023 Tee Connector.

I've attached an image that shows it all connected. Hope your find this useful. The brass adapter that ships with Rocket simply steps up the size to another British Threaded coupling, and is not needed by the setup above.

I am amazed that Rocket Espresso does provides a machine to the US market, that is designed to be plumbed in, yet it provides an incompatible thread type for the US. I think Rocket Espresso makes a great machine and I hope they recognize that this oversight can result in a negative impression to their US customers.

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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2012, 4:54pm
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Good job, Marty and thanks!!
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