Damat101 Senior Member Joined: 21 Apr 2012 Posts: 8 Location: GREECe Expertise: I live coffee
Posted Mon Apr 23, 2012, 10:14am Subject: Advice for getting a build-in-kitchen espresso machine please?
Hi everyone.
As we are building a new house and we aim at avoiding all kinds of appliances from the kitchen bench, I'm looking to purchase a build- in appliance for espresso. I'm a fan of superautomatics as I already own a gaggia synchrony logic, and a Jura, but I can't seem to find any reviews and info towards build in machines.
The brands that I'm considering (as I live in Crete and not all brands Are available or have local support) are
Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 2,320 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2012, 10:47am Subject: Re: Advice for getting a build-in-kitchen espresso machine please?
I have seen a few Decors on craigslist and I looked reviews on them. I could not find any coffeegeek type reviews. I suggest you will have to go to the showrooms and taste the coffee and judge for yourself. Lots of coffeegeeks take their wet bar area and make it an espresso bar instead. I have also seen espresso set ups in wardrobes, basements, attics, pantries, hall ways so it is not always the kitchen.
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Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 2,320 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2012, 12:47pm Subject: Re: Advice for getting a build-in-kitchen espresso machine please?
good catch on that. This one if it is being made by Nuova Simonelli, it probably has got good guts in an wall mount body. From the page I am not sure that it is an NS machine.
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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2012, 1:35pm Subject: Re: Advice for getting a build-in-kitchen espresso machine please?
I would recommend against it, but with a solution: The espresso area does not have to be in the kitchen. A "wet bar" area of the den is a great location. 1.5 meters of width can be sufficient. A little more and you have room for a sink.. Ahhh hA! That means that you can put a water treatment system (softener if necessary) underneath and have a plumbed machine including drain. If you have room, the added cost is minimal, but the long-term benefits can be great.
EDIT: If you do decide to get a built-in unit, have the cabinet maker build a door to cover the space which matches the rest of the kitchen so, in the future, if you decide to remove the machine the space will become usable storage.
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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2012, 7:07pm Subject: Re: Advice for getting a build-in-kitchen espresso machine please?
frcn Said:
EDIT: If you do decide to get a built-in unit, have the cabinet maker build a door to cover the space which matches the rest of the kitchen so, in the future, if you decide to remove the machine the space will become usable storage.
Damat101 Senior Member Joined: 21 Apr 2012 Posts: 8 Location: GREECe Expertise: I live coffee
Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012, 2:39pm Subject: Re: Advice for getting a build-in-kitchen espresso machine please?
Ok. Thank you all for taking the time to helping me out.
But, as a matter of fact, has anyone tried any of the brands I mentioned? or has anyone ever taken a closer look at their tech spechs?
Both miele and gagennau are supposed to be top of the line in appliances in hefty prices, so it not unthinkable that they might provide an acceptable espresso machine. And I used to live in a house where there was a bauknecht installed and the shots where much better than the ones I'm getting from Jura or gaggia.
I know that I can probabbly get better shots with a grinder and a saeco for example but I'm a superauto fan as I mentioned, and take it as a fact that Im asking for build in machines only.
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