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ESL
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Posted Sun Apr 1, 2012, 5:01am
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You can buy a used machine from fleabay for relatively short money.  A friend is about to list an isomac millenium for a reserve of $300. 7 years old but very well kept.
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Posted Mon Apr 2, 2012, 8:43am
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Two thoughts on this:

Under $300 -

1) Mypressi Twist ($149) - makes excellent espresso, only have to purchase N20 cartridges (bonus: ultra portable).
2) Baratza Encore Grinder ($129) - Baratza's newest grinder and probably the best entry level electric grinder that can grind espresso. (though if you want to splurge a little bit more on the grinder, the Preciso is even better with its micro adjustments)

$400 Price Point -

Frankly, if you are willing to spend $300 on a machine, I might try to entice you up to $400 with the new ZPME espresso machine that is coming out soon. http://zpmespresso.myshopify.com/  This machine appears to be the best machine for its price that is out [edit: this machine is still in pre-production at the time of this post], though this is based upon specs and estimates at this point and not actual testing.  This does appear to be a great espresso machine that, at the very least, will be worth keeping your eyes open about.

Also, as a side note, a great grinder is better than a great espresso machine, so to begin with, if you have to stick close to your budget, I would advise investing in a better grinder and going with the Mypressi Twist to begin with so you can still have great shots until you can save up for a better home machine to go with your grinder.

 
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Coffeenoobie
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Posted Mon Apr 2, 2012, 2:22pm
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that sounds like solid advice about the mypressi + good grinder and saving up for and watching sales for a bargain espresso machine down the line.

For traveling it would be great later on.  How much cost per cup does the cartage add?

 
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Posted Mon Apr 2, 2012, 2:36pm
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Wow, I really like the programming from the USB card and smart phones down the line.  That gets me excited... I am a computer nerd.  Not so excited about not being able to steam and brew, but everything else looks really neat and well thought out.  That would have been a contender for me if I was just starting out now.  However, I am very happy with my ugly Oscar.  He was just unloved and now he is a star in my kitchen. And only $75 more than their starting costs.  I have had to fix him up a bit.  So, I am not going to ditch him for all the iphone driven coffee makers in the world.  :)

 
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Posted Mon Apr 2, 2012, 7:39pm
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So, this is my first post here also.  I was, not that long ago, just like you.  I wanted espresso and I didn't want to invest a ton of $$ in equipment.  What I ended up with was a good deal on a *$ Barista (saeco via venezia) for $80 and I shimmed my black and decker burr grinder to get an appropriate grind.  I made decent espresso at best.  Definitely not good, but decent.  I had to do a lot to get it too.  

I was in the mood to upgrade in about 3 weeks.  I found a smokin' deal on a Pasquini Livia for $300 minus the portafilter.  That was $100, the cleaning cost only time, and I invested in a Hario hand grinder (which someone else mentioned does INDEED get old fast, esp when trying to learn a machine) that I promptly chucked up to my cordless drill.  

At this point, having been graced with all sorts of luck, I'm still a safe $150 over your budget.  That's in no way intended to deter you.  In fact, the opposite.  Get on craigslist, stay on it and you will find a deal.  You might have to travel for it but they're there.  

You could get by with one of the little machines for a bit and ignorance may be bliss.  If you are an experienced espresso'r or if you prefer milk drinks it might be fine, but you're going to need a grinder one way or the other, and you'll probably want something with a proper portafilter too.

May not have been helpful but that's where I'm at coming from exactly where you are.
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Posted Tue Apr 3, 2012, 6:21am
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Coffeenoobie Said:

that sounds like solid advice about the mypressi + good grinder and saving up for and watching sales for a bargain espresso machine down the line.

For traveling it would be great later on.  How much cost per cup does the cartage add?

Posted April 2, 2012 link

Estimating about $20 for a 24 pack of N20 Cartridges and going by Mypressi's claim of 4 doubleshots or 8 singleshots per cartridge, my assumption is that it will cost approximately $0.30 per doubleshot or $0.15 per singleshot for the cartridge cost.  Again, these are just estimates.

 
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Posted Sun Apr 8, 2012, 5:39am
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I've tried a Gaggia New Baby and for this money, it's really ok. Why not trying it out in a shop?
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Posted Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:13am
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coffeecupcollector Said:

Why not trying it out in a shop?

Posted April 8, 2012 link

Well, I cannot speak for Switzerland, but here in the US, it's not NSF certified and therefore cannot be used in a commercial setting.

 
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Posted Mon Apr 9, 2012, 1:36pm
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Maybe he meant try it out in a show room, not a coffee shop.


I think I would spend the full 300 on a good grinder and try to pick up a used starbucks machine from craigslist for about 100 or less as soon as I could save the extra 100.  Then I would set a jar by the starbucks machine and every time I pulled a shot I would tip myself and then use that money to buy myself a nicer machine in 6 months or a year.  Maybe by then the guys will have their new machine made.

 
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Posted Mon Apr 9, 2012, 2:05pm
Subject: Re: Espresso for under $300
 

To be blunt, I recommend doing what I did:
Buy a versatile grinder like a refurbished Precisio and an Aeropress, and then save for an espresso machine. At least the grinder will work for drip, Aeropress and espresso w/o a need to upgrade in a few months.

I prefer buying quality stuff that will last than "starter" equipment that will be totally inadequate after a few months of use.
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