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dzitt
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Posted Fri Mar 16, 2012, 7:34pm Subject: Is the Breville BES830XL that bad ?

Hi, I'm curently looking to replace my Breville Cafe Roma with an other espresso machine. Not going to spend 1000$ on a machine, but still, don't want to buy something that I'll regret again. Recently I was reading here on the forum and the Breville BES830XL and the model it replace don't really seems to be that good... I do understand that Gaggia and Rancillio makes better machine, but what can I found in Montreal (Canada) that could fit in a 500$ max budget ? dzitt

cappuccinoboy
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Posted Sat Mar 17, 2012, 10:09am
Subject: Re: Is the Breville BES830XL that bad ?

dzitt Said:

Hi, I'm curently looking to replace my Breville Cafe Roma with an other espresso machine. Not going to spend 1000$ on a machine, but still, don't want to buy something that I'll regret again. Recently I was reading here on the forum and the Breville BES830XL and the model it replace don't really seems to be that good...

I do understand that Gaggia and Rancillio makes better machine, but what can I found in Montreal (Canada) that could fit in a 500$ max budget ?

dzitt

Posted March 16, 2012 link

why not visit Espresso Mali ?, it seems they have a good line of espresso machines, you can find them at www.espressomali.com
Ciao, Pietro

dzitt
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Posted Sat Mar 17, 2012, 10:10am Subject: Re: Is the Breville BES830XL that bad ?

I found few Gaggia espresso machine under 500$. Which one would be the best for regular use (not daily though) ? dzitt

D4F
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Posted Sat Mar 17, 2012, 10:21am Subject: Re: Is the Breville BES830XL that bad ?

Just recently went through a similar thought. With Gaggia SBDU units like the Classic, you get basically the same unit in different housing. You pay more for the stainless housing in the Classic vs plastic, but the operation is similar. I looked up parts diagrams on each and found similarities and differences. I wanted the adjustable OPV and the 3 way selenoid, the variable parts. If interested, see parts here for the various machines. http://www.partsguru.com/ Best is then your pocket and how it fits your space.

dzitt
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Posted Sun Mar 18, 2012, 5:58am
Subject: Re: Is the Breville BES830XL that bad ?

cappuccinoboy Said:

why not visit Espresso Mali ?, it seems they have a good line of espresso machines, you can find them at www.espressomali.com
Ciao, Pietro

Posted March 17, 2012 link

I'll try to stop by. It is actually near my office, so in a lunch time, I'll have enough time to stop by and see what coulf fit both my needs and budget !

dzitt

dzitt
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Posted Sun Mar 18, 2012, 5:59am Subject: Re: Is the Breville BES830XL that bad ?

Is this the Gaggia machine you were talking about ? Click Here (www.gaggia.com) dzitt

pmdesherb
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Posted Sun Mar 18, 2012, 6:20am Subject: Re: Is the Breville BES830XL that bad ?

I am also in the same situation. The last week, i bought one at Costco. The price is 300 compare to 450 elsewhere. Got home, unpacked it, fill with water, plugged it and push the start button. No water coming out. I returned it and got another one. Same thing. No water is coming out. Not sure i will try a third time. But maybe since buying through Costco give me a 2 years warranty. I don't want to (can't) pay much more than that. So what is the problem with Breville?

dzitt
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Posted Tue Mar 20, 2012, 6:44pm
Subject: Re: Is the Breville BES830XL that bad ?

pmdesherb Said:

So what is the problem with Breville?

Posted March 18, 2012 link

From what I have been told today, the BES830Xl have the same mechanical parts as the Cafe Roma, the entry level espresso machine from Breville. You only pay for a bigger casing and few other options...

dzitt

MARIOBARBA
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Posted Tue Mar 20, 2012, 7:26pm Subject: Re: Is the Breville BES830XL that bad ?

If you're interested I have an Avanti Capri from Mali for sale. I could do 200$, it sells for 400$ at Mali. http://coffeegeek.com/forums/members/buysell/560858

dzitt
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Posted Wed Mar 21, 2012, 4:43am
Subject: Re: Is the Breville BES830XL that bad ?

dzitt Said:

Is this the Gaggia machine you were talking about ?

Click Here (www.gaggia.com)

dzitt

Posted March 18, 2012 link

Learned yesterday that Gaggia was bought by Phillips and that new models are made of cheaper parts...will have to look elsewhere for a good espresso machine in the price range I'm looking for...

dzitt

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