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victordweck
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Espresso: Ascaso Dream
Posted Wed Feb 29, 2012, 6:15pm
Subject: Ascaso Dream - Tips on Steaming
 

Hello,

I have another post in the forums about by Ascaso Dream performing with weak steam. However, perhaps I am steaming incorrectly?

I am having difficulty producing microfoam - that "wet paint" or "velvet" texture.

I hold the milk to the middle of the hole in the wand to get that slurping sound, and I do my best to maintain that sound throughout in order to produce the microfoam. Eventually though, the hole stops sucking in and instead produces large bubbles. I don't see microfoam before that point, or else I would have stopped.

Can somebody with the same machine (or knowledge of my situation) provide me with some advice?

Much appreciated.

Thanks,

Victor
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segala
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Posted Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:23pm
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Hi Victor,

I am a coffee machine beginner but I also have an Ascaso Dream.
It took me quite awhile, but I am able to produce nice microfoam on my Ascaso.

When using the panarello tip (the one with the small hole in the middle), I've found that it's best to keep the wand against the side of the steaming jug and slowly as the milk stretches lower the jug. You should hear a sound that sounds a lot like paper ripping.

I have also found that the best microfoam can be made when removing the panarello and leaving the tip bare. It might not be great for the wand, but it makes the best microfoam.

Another tip that I find very useful is to open the steam gauge before the light turns off. This causes the boiler to kick in and give you a constant steam throughout.

I hope that helps!
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Posted Thu Mar 1, 2012, 7:50pm
Subject: Re: Ascaso Dream - Tips on Steaming
 

Hi victor, welcome to coffeegeek!

victordweck Said:

I have another post in the forums about by Ascaso Dream performing with weak steam. However, perhaps I am steaming incorrectly?

Posted February 29, 2012 link

I haven't seen your other post, but just an FYI, cross posting within coffeegeek forums is frowned upon.




victordweck Said:

I am having difficulty producing microfoam - that "wet paint" or "velvet" texture.

I hold the milk to the middle of the hole in the wand to get that slurping sound, and I do my best to maintain that sound throughout in order to produce the microfoam. Eventually though, the hole stops sucking in and instead produces large bubbles. I don't see microfoam before that point, or else I would have stopped.

Posted February 29, 2012 link

If you haven't already, you should read this sites milk steaming guide: "The Milk Frothing Guide"

With the frothing aid/panarello wand, steaming is a little different (it talks about it in the guide).  As segala said you want to surf with the small hole in the wand.  Hold that hold at the surface of the milk who you hear the sound of paper ripping.  It should sound like "ch ch ch ch" not "sh sh sh sh" if that makes sense.  As the milk expands you'll need to lower the pitcher to keep the hold at the surface of the milk.  You'll do this until the milk is about 80degF or until the pitcher feels not cold or just slightly warm. This is th stretching phase of milk steaming. this is where you introduce air into the milk and give it volume. The second stage incorporates the milk and foam and continues to heat the milk to the right temo.  At that point you'll need to sink the wand into the pitcher until the temp gets to 150 or until the pitcher becomes too  hot to touch plus another 5-10 sec.  

Some notes; the dream isn't a great steamer, but good microfoam can be produced.  If you end up with foam on top of milk you likely over stretched the milk.  Sink the wand sooner.  Milk makes a difference too.  Fattier milk tends to be easier where skim milk wants to seperate very quickly.  Also, milk brands make a difference too.  Some milks work great and some don't.  If after some practice youre still having issues, feel free to try anoth brand.  Bottom line, is it takes some practice, so have at it!
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victordweck
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Posted Mon Mar 5, 2012, 8:04am
Subject: Re: Ascaso Dream - Tips on Steaming
 

Thanks for the tips you two! The Milk Frothing guide looks awesome and I'm going to begin reading it soon!

In regards to the double post - yeah, of course, I'm aware. That post was a tech support post. Thanks for the heads up.

Keep up the great work! Looking forward to posting pics!

Victor
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sniggings
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Posted Mon Mar 5, 2012, 8:14am
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try only a small amount of milk,my not very good machine works better if I do that,keep everything cold too so you get longer to make the microfoam,I also believe not all machines can produce microfoam,so I'm looking for an upgrade.
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Posted Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:47am
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I totally agree with NOT using any of the tips provided with the Ascaso Dream for really great microfoam. I am making ridiculously frothy loose merengey foam much easier than when using the provided tips(any  of them)....I love my Ascaso.  Happy sipping!
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