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bamaster
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Posted Tue Feb 21, 2012, 6:26pm
Subject: Is it time for an upgrade?
 

Ok, I have an issue that I'd like to get rid of.  My Mini Vivaldi has the small 53mm portafilter.  That isn't a problem in of itself.  But with the Mahlkonig Pro M grinder, the coffee doesn't go into the basket in the center.  Because the pf has to be pushed up against the grinder to keep the button pressed, the coffee gets piled up against the side.

I don't WDT or anything like that. I just want a really good grind into the portafilter, swipe off any excess, and tamp.

So I was thinking... is it time to upgrade espresso machines?  Maybe a Duetto or something under $3k.  Or is it time to upgrade grinders?  I'd love a K30 but I don't think that solves my problem since it has the same design.

What would you do?

 
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diggi
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Espresso: Spaz vivaldi S1 V2
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Posted Tue Feb 21, 2012, 6:33pm
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Do you really just want a dosing funnel? Click Here (www.orphanespresso.com)

If grind and machine are good, would be nice to have a simpler solution.
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JasonBrandtLewis
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Posted Tue Feb 21, 2012, 7:29pm
Subject: Re: Is it time for an upgrade?
 

You already have a very good machine; I, too, would look into a dosing funnel . . . .

 
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Posted Tue Feb 21, 2012, 7:51pm
Subject: Re: Is it time for an upgrade?
 

This is a joke....right?

Let me get this right, you want to get rid of your Mini Vivaldi because the button on your grinder is 3mm too short???
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bamaster
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Posted Tue Feb 21, 2012, 9:29pm
Subject: Re: Is it time for an upgrade?
 

Endo Said:

This is a joke....right?

Let me get this right, you want to get rid of your Mini Vivaldi because the button on your grinder is 3mm too short???

Posted February 21, 2012 link

Why would it be a joke?  My setup has a quirk that I don't like.  I'm considering changing the machine or the grinder to get rid of the quirk.  

The dosing funnel is an interesting idea.  I might pick one up just to see if I like it.  I'm exploring the options.

 
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sn_85
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Posted Tue Feb 21, 2012, 9:57pm
Subject: Re: Is it time for an upgrade?
 

bamaster Said:

Why would it be a joke?  My setup has a quirk that I don't like.  I'm considering changing the machine or the grinder to get rid of the quirk.  

The dosing funnel is an interesting idea.  I might pick one up just to see if I like it.  I'm exploring the options.

Posted February 21, 2012 link

I would say that it's a little silly because you're looking to solve a problem by spending another $1000 when a simple $20 solution might be available.  Most people learn to live with quirks, work their way around them, or find simple solutions.  Not throw money at the issue since it seems pretty minor.  Unless the Vivaldi or Mahlkonig don't perform up to your standards I wouldn't get rid of them.  I'm sure there is a simpler and cheaper solution other than getting new gear.
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Posted Wed Feb 22, 2012, 2:50am
Subject: Re: Is it time for an upgrade?
 

sn_85 Said:

I would say that it's a little silly because you're looking to solve a problem by spending another $1000 when a simple $20 solution might be available.  Most people learn to live with quirks, work their way around them, or find simple solutions...

Posted February 21, 2012 link

Oh, I can understand the idea of quirks.  I bought new Redwing shoes and the first day I had them I found a "made in China" tag in them.  Nothing on the box- just tiny printing on the bottom of the tag on the tongue.  I now have new shoes- not because the shoes were bad or unusable but because every time I would look at them I would see a $250 pair of "made in China" shoes that I had assumed were still made in America.  Every time I looked at them, tied the laces or took them off I would start seeing red and would feel my blood pressure raise around 20 points.

I bring that up because I threw $$$ at what was not a problem but was something that bothered me EVERY time I so much as looked at them.  I assume that the OP is experiencing the same thing.  Every time he uses the combination he gets a little more irked and now feels the need to do something about it.

I hope the dosing funnel works out.  If not, perhaps somebody will have another thought or idea that will solve what must be a fairly common and frustrating quirk.  I recall reading about the VST filter on coffeegeek and there was a tool that Mark had mentioned called a "scottie tool" that seemed to help level the grounds in the basket.  Perhaps that would be an easy, quick solution to distributing the coffee?  I will try to find the link tomorrow and post it if nobody else has.
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Joel_B
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Posted Wed Feb 22, 2012, 4:43am
Subject: Re: Is it time for an upgrade?
 

bamaster Said:

The dosing funnel is an interesting idea.  I might pick one up just to see if I like it.  I'm exploring the options.

Posted February 21, 2012 link

The funnel may keep the grinds in the basket and not your counter but that alone may not change what's likely uneven distribution.  because of the larger OD of the funnel it may very well push the pf back enough, but couldn't say for sure.  What about some extension for the button so the pf doesn't need to be pushed in as far? I'm not familiar enough with the grinder to know how difficult it would or wouldn't be but something else to look at.
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Grinder: B Vario, OE LIDO
Drip: Chemex, Espro Press,...
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Posted Wed Feb 22, 2012, 5:50am
Subject: Re: Is it time for an upgrade?
 

Joel_B Said:

The funnel may keep the grinds in the basket and not your counter but that alone may not change what's likely uneven distribution.  because of the larger OD of the funnel it may very well push the pf back enough, but couldn't say for sure.  What about some extension for the button so the pf doesn't need to be pushed in as far? I'm not familiar enough with the grinder to know how difficult it would or wouldn't be but something else to look at.

Posted February 22, 2012 link

True.  now I think I understand what your problem is....the above may in fact be true, and perhaps this would be an option.  What about pusing the button with your finger, while leaving the pf out a bit?  Would that work?
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JasonBrandtLewis
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Espresso: Elektra T1 - La Valentina -...
Grinder: Mahlkönig K30 Vario -...
Vac Pot: Yama 5-cup
Drip: CCD, Chemex
Roaster: No, no, not another...
Posted Wed Feb 22, 2012, 8:14am
Subject: Re: Is it time for an upgrade?
 

What about WDT?

 
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