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Dr_Coffee_House
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Posted Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:42pm
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mcknightp Said:

Rate this..................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1S0hiOBt0E

Cheers, Phil

Posted January 5, 2012 link

Phil, love the sunnies ya had on... Or was that a reflection and a flash back to the black shirt you had on ?

So, regardless of the pour; what was the cup like :-)

PS. Forget the Naked, I would have a BDB on my bench - thanks Phil, will keep an eye out for TNT Express :-)

 
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Posted Fri Jan 6, 2012, 2:12pm
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mcknightp Said:

I have no problems fitting a VST 22g in the standard PF, but you must have the black plastic insert that's in the base of the PF removed.

Cheers, Phil

Posted January 5, 2012 link

Removed it long ago. I feel like if I try to force the VST any more it's going to break something. Do I need to remove the clip?

dagoat Said:

ok phil, get me an official Breville naked PF.  pm me, and i won't tell the rest of these yanks about it. ;)

-peter

Posted January 5, 2012 link

Who are you calling a yank? Bugger off! ; )

I decided to contact Breville to have my machine replaced with a calibrated unit. I just hope they don't pull the usual thing which is to give people warranty/refurbs in place of a new machine...
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Posted Fri Jan 6, 2012, 3:08pm
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Hi guys,

I've been following this thread and others in different forums for this machine for some time now.  I was super bummed that I missed out on that WS sale for 30% off (was literally a few days after it ended that I learned about it) so I've been holding off for them to do that sale again.  In the meantime, I've found a seller that can get the machine for a very decent price.  I don't care at all about helping this seller, just trying to get fellow enthusiasts a good deal.  If you're interested, just send me a PM.
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Posted Fri Jan 6, 2012, 7:33pm
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dagoat Said:

ok phil, get me an official Breville naked PF.  pm me, and i won't tell the rest of these yanks about it. ;)

-peter

Posted January 5, 2012 link

Hey, don't leave me out.  I want one too!
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Posted Fri Jan 6, 2012, 8:41pm
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EvilCookie Said:

Hi guys,

I've been following this thread and others in different forums for this machine for some time now.  I was super bummed that I missed out on that WS sale for 30% off (was literally a few days after it ended that I learned about it) so I've been holding off for them to do that sale again.  In the meantime, I've found a seller that can get the machine for a very decent price.  I don't care at all about helping this seller, just trying to get fellow enthusiasts a good deal.  If you're interested, just send me a PM.

Posted January 6, 2012 link

Can't find a place to PM you, but I'm interested in the deal! Send me an email (if you don't mind) at
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Posted Fri Jan 6, 2012, 10:15pm
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one of my mates on another forum, (non-coffee forum), said this:

Just had a chat w/Matt at Breville, they are replacing my machine as well. New one should be here on Tuesday. I guess I'll have to go back and re-calibrate everything, I've been keeping notes on dose, shot duration, volume, etc.

I tried to get him to reveal what they've changed, he wouldn't get into specifics beyond saying there have been "manufacturing changes" to the valve and the firmware, including the volumetric default settings.

Anyway very pleasant and hassle-free. He also said they anticipate a US release of the naked portafilter in February.

interesting parts bolded by me.

-peter
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Posted Mon Jan 9, 2012, 7:40am
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dagoat Said:

Doc, have you figured out a way to get the stock handles off?  Iirc, Phil Mcknight was not very encouraging about it.

Btw, when I talked with the brand new BDB rep (no longer kenji kawano), at brevilleusa re getting my 900xl replaced because of the high pressure, I put in a plug for the bottomless pf for us yanks, as well.  Fingers crossed.

-Peter

Posted January 3, 2012 link

Update..

As best I can tell the Handle is of a Bakelite type compound.

The finer detail, as to what I have found is on the Crema Coffee forums.

But in short..

Destruction of said original to expose the spigot is Option 1.  

OR

Removal of said handle with a saw, leaving approx 20mm of spigot. This can be drilled and taped to say 10mm = Problem solved.

 
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Posted Mon Jan 9, 2012, 2:56pm
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dagoat Said:

one of my mates on another forum, (non-coffee forum), said this:

"manufacturing changes" to the valve and the firmware

-peter

Posted January 6, 2012 link

I think changing the firmware is very unlikely. I don't see how that would have anything to do with adjusting the OPV.
Phil is the only one I would trust to verify that.
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Posted Mon Jan 9, 2012, 3:32pm
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jasonhilton Said:

I think changing the firmware is very unlikely. I don't see how that would have anything to do with adjusting the OPV.
Phil is the only one I would trust to verify that.

Posted January 9, 2012 link

Certainly firmware changes should have little to do with maladjusted OPVs.  But it does not seems outlandish that Breville might tweak some of the logic that juggles the boiler management on our US-spec, XL's.  This due to the fact that we run half the nominal voltage here than they do in the home market.

-Peter
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Posted Mon Jan 9, 2012, 8:55pm
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jasonhilton Said:

I think changing the firmware is very unlikely. I don't see how that would have anything to do with adjusting the OPV.
Phil is the only one I would trust to verify that.

Posted January 9, 2012 link

I can confirm that there is a firmware update. This primarily deals with managing programmed shot volumes at varying rates of flow. That's how it's related to the OPV. Other parts of the update relate to backend management of small stuff, all the major stuff was well sorted before the software was signed off prior ro production.

Cheers, Phil
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