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arnoldsh
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Posted Mon Nov 14, 2011, 9:57am
Subject: Rancilo Rocky or Baratza Virtuoso Preciso...?
 

Hi all,

I think I've narrowed my Coffee Grinder search down to either a Rancilo Rocky or a Baratza Virtuoso Preciso.

I own a Gaggia baby, home machine and I use it daily.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to which machine is better value for money, more durable, quieter, more reliable etc...

Or is there a better one in the same price bracket?

Also, where can I get one of them for a decent price in the UK?

Cheers for your help...

Steve, UK
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Posted Mon Nov 14, 2011, 10:21am
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I would choose the Baratza Preciso over the Rocky. The Rocky will give you about two choices for grind setting for espresso. The click that works best and one other click that nearly works. The fine adjustment on the Preciso and lower price (maybe not in the UK though...?) makes it the better choice.

 
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Posted Mon Nov 14, 2011, 10:51am
Subject: Re: Rancilo Rocky or Baratza Virtuoso Preciso...?
 

When it comes to grinding for espresso with the Rocky it's not uncommon to get stuck in between two steps for perfect extraction, because its steps can sometimes be too wide.

Therefore +1 in favour of the Preciso.

 
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Posted Mon Nov 14, 2011, 10:58am
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I'd go preciso over the Rocky. The preciso has more levels of fine adjustment than the Rocky I have found.
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Posted Mon Nov 14, 2011, 11:07am
Subject: Re: Rancilo Rocky or Baratza Virtuoso Preciso...?
 

Yep, what they said!

Rocky had his day in the sun and he is still a contender but there are "better" choices for the money now.

 
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Posted Tue Nov 15, 2011, 8:30am
Subject: Re: Rancilo Rocky or Baratza Virtuoso Preciso...?
 

FWIW: I love my Virtuoso Preciso!

440 repeatable grind settings is amazing.

I keep a notecard with my baseline settings by my grinder, so I can quickly and easily get between Clever dripper, Moka, Silvia, press pot. Whatever I feel like having at the moment.

It's small, quiet (honestly I think its quieter than my hario hand grinder :P) and I have had no problems with static or anything like that. As far as service, mine came with a still usable cracked hopper, I called to complain and got a replacement hopper in a couple days (and a second hopper a few days later, I'll hold on to that guy just in case)
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Posted Tue Nov 15, 2011, 8:37am
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Baratza

 
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Posted Tue Nov 15, 2011, 8:59am
Subject: Re: Rancilo Rocky or Baratza Virtuoso Preciso...?
 

I have had both, I sold the Rocky on e-bay because, although it did a decent job of grinding for Espresso, it was exceptionally messy.  My Preciso does a better job, is neat and clean, and skips easily between Espresso and pour over, and back to Espresso (OK, sometimes one sink shot when I go back to Espresso...)  I also have a MACAP M4 and can't tell much difference between the Preciso and the MACAP.

In the end, they will both do a creditable job, but I would definitely go with the Preciso.

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Posted Tue Nov 15, 2011, 12:43pm
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Thanks for all your help coffee friends.

The Baratza Virtuoso Preciso will be in my kitchen soon, just sourcing for a good price in the UK.

Cheers,
Steve
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Posted Mon Dec 5, 2011, 12:37pm
Subject: Re: Rancilo Rocky or Baratza Virtuoso Preciso...?
 

arnoldsh Said:

Hi all,

I think I've narrowed my Coffee Grinder search down to either a Rancilo Rocky or a Baratza Virtuoso Preciso.

I own a Gaggia baby, home machine and I use it daily.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to which machine is better value for money, more durable, quieter, more reliable etc...

Or is there a better one in the same price bracket?

Also, where can I get one of them for a decent price in the UK?

Cheers for your help...

Steve, UK

Posted November 14, 2011 link

I had your same question and went with the Baratza Preciso. Did you end up getting one yourself? If so please let us know your thoughts.
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