Posted Fri Oct 28, 2011, 9:38am Subject: Re: The Crossland CC1 Machine - CG Road Trip!! (Looking for a few good geeks)
Great idea Jon, I would have joined in the Road Show, but, I brought one home last night from Clive Coffee and it is heating up next to the GS3 in the kitchen at the moment (I need a machine to use at work, so I thought I would try it). I ran through the parameters to see what the default settings were, and I came on here to see if anyone had a temp offset listed as mine is set at 0. If I don't find it I'm going to give Bill C. a call to check all the parameters before I pull some shots through it. I also need to get a bottomless for it, so I can use it with the scace, as the standard two lug PF's won't fit the group.
Posted Fri Oct 28, 2011, 12:15pm Subject: Re: The Crossland CC1 Machine - CG Road Trip!! (Looking for a few good geeks)
I'd be interested in partaking. I am a Rancilio Silvia owner, (with a P.I.D.) but not sure I am well enough versed in all the tech-speak. I am fascinated by the idea of such a simple platform for espresso. What is the price point for this machine? Is it for sale anywhere? Dying to read a review or comparison...
Just saw the CC1 for $699 at Seattle Coffee Gear. I wondered if this was being compared to a Sivia if it was in the same price range. Sweet deal with a P.I.D.
Holy cow, -8? I just ran a battery of tests...I do not have a bottomless PF for it yet, so I double checked the GS3 with the scace, then set up the styrofoam cup with a digital temp probe in it, I had a 10 degree difference with this method on the GS3, then tested back & forth to the CC1 letting both recover to their set point. When I spoke with Bill before my testing to confirm the correct offset, he stated the difference was built into the software, so the setting would reflect 0 in the set-up menu...so you are not seeing the boiler temp, but what is expected at the group, on the display.
My observation was the first two to three after a 15 minute idle was dropping about 2 degrees, climbing to the setpoint on the 3rd pull or so. Each time I just waited for the unit to "beep" then retest. I also have the delay after 1 second pre-infuse set to 6 sec, so I would start the procedure, dump the initial amount from the cup and get it back under the group @ the 6 second mark, then run for about 80ml of water (around the 15-16 sec mark). I did find a flash boil from the group on about the 6-7th (back to back) test on the machine. I think this must be pushing the limits of boiler recovery, causing some type of thermal overshoot, but, with actual usage times of more like 2 minutes, this didn't occur.
Don't mean to hijack the thread, but thought the info on the settings would be useful as the machine gets sent around and played with.
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