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MisterJohnnyT
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 7:34am
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I'm starting to think the promise of road trip reviews has just been a really long drawn out TROLL.  How many of us fell for it?
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 7:54am
Subject: Re: The Crossland CC1 Machine - CG Road Trip!! (Looking for a few good geeks)
 

Maybe it is because only one machine is used on the road trips, but it sure does take a long time to get feedback from these road trips.  That is about as diplomatic a response as I can give.

 
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:51pm
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The CC1 was my first choice when I was looking to buy a machine. I finally got tired of waiting for the reviews and picked something else.

I think the publish-all-at-once model is good if you want to control the message, but otherwise is bad. I can understand not wanting reviewers to influence each other, but that shouldn't be a problem. Presumably, reviewers are to be trusted and I think just asking them to not look at the review thread until after they post their review should be good enough to keep everybody honest.
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:55pm
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All of the reviews are done already, and the machine was returned to Bill C.  Now we are just waiting for it to be published.

 
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 1:45pm
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MisterJohnnyT Said:

I'm starting to think the promise of road trip reviews has just been a really long drawn out TROLL.  How many of us fell for it?

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Sorry you feel that way. If you are an active member here and on other coffee related forums then coffee is as much a hobby as a beverage. Those of us who used it agreed going in to the format - in exchange for our opinions we were offered the chance to play with a new $700 espresso machine equipped with a unique feature set. What coffee/espresso enthusiast wouldn't appreciate that offer?

On another note - you own a Crossland CC1 - why not post a thread with your opinions?

 
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 5:02pm
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MisterJohnnyT Said:

I'm starting to think the promise of road trip reviews has just been a really long drawn out TROLL.  How many of us fell for it?

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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 7:01pm
Subject: Re: The Crossland CC1 Machine - CG Road Trip!! (Looking for a few good geeks)
 

EricBNC Said:

Sorry you feel that way. If you are an active member here and on other coffee related forums then coffee is as much a hobby as a beverage. Those of us who used it agreed going in to the format - in exchange for our opinions we were offered the chance to play with a new $700 espresso machine equipped with a unique feature set. What coffee/espresso enthusiast wouldn't appreciate that offer?

On another note - you own a Crossland CC1 - why not post a thread with your opinions?

Posted June 11, 2012 link

I'll chime in:
I've had my CC1 for about six weeks.
It's my first espresso machine and I considered both cheaper and more pricey options before deciding on it.
I thought I'd do very little milk frothing (I drink mostly espresso, some Americanos, and in summer some iced mochacino's) and that turned out to be correct, when I do make a capuccino though, I find it works quite well. So, I didn't need a machine that would steam multiple cups rapidly.

Thus far, I've had essentially no issues with the machine and have been making very good espresso. I'm new to this and have nothing to compare it to, but, for my purposes, I don't think it would have been worth it to get a more expensive machine. The built in PID and pre-infusion are nice features.
I've found the machine to be easy to use as well.

The esthetics are OK. I think the all stainless machines can look way slicker, but this blends into the background.
In short, at it's price point, I think it's a great machine and fairly unique.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the road trip reviews say.
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Posted Tue Jun 12, 2012, 5:32am
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Posted Tue Jun 12, 2012, 2:00pm
Subject: Re: The Crossland CC1 Machine - CG Road Trip!! (Looking for a few good geeks)
 

joatmon Said:

Eric,

I believe the underlying reason the road trip for this machine was so anticipated is the simple fact that it was going to be reviewed by a group of seasoned espresso "experts" whose opinion could be taken as gospel.

joat

Posted June 12, 2012 link

Nothing about being enthusiastic precludes being honest too.  Our agreement was only to hold off from posting our impressions early. That said, I also hope the final version shows up soon.

I am not sure about the seasoned espresso experts part either. Some certainly were, but I am not. I am closer to the guy using a very entry level machine that wants something better - about a year ago I was that guy exactly.

 
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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Posted Tue Jun 12, 2012, 7:22pm
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EricBNC Said:

Our agreement was only to hold off from posting our impressions early. That said, I also hope the final version shows up soon.

Posted June 12, 2012 link

Any idea what the delay is? If the last person has shipped the machine back, what's stopping you from posting your review?
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