NobbyR Senior Member Joined: 10 Jul 2011 Posts: 1,991 Location: Germany Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Poccino Opus One, Ariete Grinder: Eureka Mignon Istantaneo Vac Pot: N/A Drip: Melitta Linea Unica de Luxe Roaster: N/A
Posted Sat Oct 22, 2011, 10:05pm Subject: Re: Too many choices!
The triple basket is designed to let more water through its holes than a double or even a single basket. That way, in spite of the higher dose, the desired amount of water can pass the grounds during extraction time.
*** "This drink of the Satan is so delicious that it would be a shame to leave it to the infidels." (Pope Clement VIII on coffee, when he was urged to ban the beverage)
Posted Wed Oct 26, 2011, 7:04pm Subject: Re: Too many choices!
Hi Mike, If your head is done spinning from all the really good advice given- let me add a bit and/or reiterate a bit. Start with the coffee maybe- what's the best the coffee you are using can taste? Order a bit of well known well established espresso and see what you can do. I don't like to twist much when I tamp. 1/4 turn max myself. Grind finer and tamp lighter is another rule I like. If your getting shots in the appropriate time span (there's a grey area- I've pulled shots that took over a minute that tasted pretty darn good), then go on to the next part. Play with your flush times and see what you get. I like to get my shot ready then do a quick flush and go- myself. Getting to know your machine- whatever machine that may be- will be a big part of it. Enjoy the ride!! Ron
Posted Fri Nov 4, 2011, 5:43pm Subject: Re: Too many choices!
I have ordered a VST basket which I seem to find easier to work with. Having trouble dialing in my grinder because I grind drip coffee with the same grinder. Whenever changing grind from drip to espresso it takes 3 or 4 shots before I get no more channeling no matter how I tamp and whatever the setting. I measure 16 to 17 gm. of ground coffee tamp without any elaborate distribution. Best is when I have a nice mound in the center of the basket. I do use a curved Espro tamper. After the 3rd shot I get a nice cone with striping which lasts about 25 seconds and tastes great. I need to measure the volume though and might adjust the tamp but am very happy with the flavor.
The coffee made a huge difference. I ordered a 3 day old espresso blend from a professional roaster. It is far more forgiving than the single origin coffee I was using. Even the so-so shots are delicious albeit I am getting fussy. (Very sensitive to any bitter taste. When the shot cools then you can truly taste the difference. Of course when I get the espresso right it rarely has a chance to cool.
Posted Tue Oct 16, 2012, 8:23am Subject: Re: Too many choices!
Has been awhile so I thought I should update the topic. Took the advise in this thread and upgraded the grinder. Now have a Versalab. Wow what a difference! No need to distribute. I tap as per puck method as described with orphan espresso but use a towel instead of a puck. Settles the grinds evenly. Very light tamp , no 1/4 turn and then pull. Might add that I picked up a lever, an Olympia Cremina manufactured in 1976. Expresso is much better although I have more trouble steaming milk with this machine. There certainly is a difference in the shots as I seem to get more consistent and better tasting espresso from the Cremina. Cost 80% less than the Bosca and suits my purpose very nicely. If I win a lottery then I will definitely get the Bosca. For now I really like the Cremin/Versalab for hardware.
Coffee, well I do roast my own but do order an espresso blend on occasion. With the Cremina I can still get a decent shot even with stale coffee. At least for a milk drink.
Symbols: = New Posts since your last visit = No New Posts since last visit = Newest post
Forum Rules: No profanity, illegal acts or personal attacks will be tolerated in these discussion boards. No commercial posting of any nature will be tolerated; only private sales by private individuals, in the "Buy and Sell" forum. No SEO style postings will be tolerated. SEO related posts will result in immediate ban from CoffeeGeek. No cross posting allowed - do not post your topic to more than one forum, nor repost a topic to the same forum. Who Can Read The Forum? Anyone can read posts in these discussion boards. Who Can Post New Topics? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post new topics. Who Can Post Replies? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post replies. Can Photos be posted? Anyone can post photos in their new topics or replies. Who can change or delete posts? Any CoffeeGeek member can edit their own posts. Only moderators can delete posts. Probationary Period: If you are a new signup for CoffeeGeek, you cannot promote, endorse, criticise or otherwise post an unsolicited endorsement for any company, product or service in your first five postings.