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Posted Tue Sep 13, 2011, 8:08pm
Subject: Re: Any one here have a Crossland CC1 yet?
 

ampguy Said:

You can open the steam valve and get powerful steam for days.

Posted September 13, 2011 link

I'm a big fan of Bill's and think he did a great job on the CC1, so forgive me for being skeptical about your statement.  

If you don't mind, can you please quantify a bit by timing a steaming operation?  For example, I'd like to see a report on how long it takes to steam 5 ounces of milk (in a 12 ounce pitcher) from 40F to 150F (use your actual temperatures of course).  

It would help to show video of steampower swirling the milk in a pitcher, and/or show the microfoam and/or show some latte art.

Thanks in advance

 
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Posted Wed Sep 14, 2011, 12:01am
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germantownrob Said:

...The biggest problem with SBDU machines is the waiting to go between steam and brew, the cc1 you can't brew and steam at the same time but at least with the thermoblock steam can be done with no waiting. The Silvano you can steam and pull a shot at the same time.

Posted July 11, 2011 link

Also the thermoblock enhanced steaming of the CC1 relieves you from waiting for the boiler to cool again before you can pull your next shot, because it doesn't have to heat up for frothing milk. Other than with a SBDU.

 
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Posted Wed Sep 14, 2011, 6:24am
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Hi Jon,

Yes, I can do this. Give me some time to clean the kitchen, and show my son how to operate my Sony NEX. Thanks.
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Posted Wed Sep 14, 2011, 7:07am
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ampguy Said:

The time to steam x volume to x degrees may depend on the volume and temp drop of your last shot pulled and vice versa..

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Since the machine uses a separate thermoblock for steaming I am unsure about how the performance of the extraction affects steaming unless the steam feed line goes through the boiler to preheat it, and even than the effect would be minimal.

 
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Posted Wed Sep 14, 2011, 7:10am
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frcn Said:

...unless the steam feed line goes through the boiler to preheat it, and even than the effect would be minimal.

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As far as I know the thermoblock uses hot water from the brewing boiler for steaming.

 
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Posted Wed Sep 14, 2011, 10:36am
Subject: My CC1 Arrives on Friday!
 

I have ordered a CC1 from Seattle Coffee Gear and it should be arriving this Friday.  Unfortunately I'm going to be away for a couple of weeks, but when I do get back I'll try to photograph/record some test shots.  I've actually managed to get my hands on a bottomless portafilter for the CC1, so with any luck we can all critique the nitty-gritty of the machine.  

FWIW, I'll be using the CC1 with a Baratza Virtuoso, and will be roasting some green beans from Sweet Marias.  Frankly, we may end up critiquing my terrible technique rather than the machine, but nonetheless I'll try to post something up here/YouTube by the end of the month.  

Before anyone asks, I believe Crossland Coffee is going to be producing some bottomless portafilters in about a month; I've just been fortunate enough to get one a little early, hand made by Bill Crossland himself!  That's what you call fantastic customer service :o)

This is the first time I've spent "real money" on an espresso machine, though this will be my fourth one overall.  Really looking forward to playing with this new toy.
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Posted Wed Sep 14, 2011, 10:44am
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Maybe a test to see the time it takes to "steam" a pitcher of cool water from X F to 150 would answer a number of questions. It does make sense that water is drawn from the boiler to feed the thermoblock. I would think that once the machine was warmed up that whether you steam before or after an extraction wouldn't matter much in terms of steaming power... But that's just a hypothesis.

 
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Posted Wed Sep 14, 2011, 2:11pm
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Well, I'm confused.  What is the difference between the CC1 and the GEE??
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Posted Wed Sep 14, 2011, 3:17pm
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ginalola Said:

Well, I'm confused.  What is the difference between the CC1 and the GEE??

Posted September 14, 2011 link

Not sure, but this may be helpful : CLICK

 
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Posted Wed Sep 14, 2011, 4:25pm
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Thanks for the link...it helped; however, I'm still surprised that after all the chatter about a 'game-changing' machine, there isn't a game-changing machine. I watched a video of the CC1, and it seemed to be slow in making the adjustment to steam, and as for appearance, the GEE and the CC1 are not the most exciting espresso machines relative to what is on the market.  I hope that the CC2 will be a solo act, more eye-catching, and faster.  I hate to say this, but I would not have bet my house on the CC1; perhaps the CC2 is the real game-changer.
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