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makaira
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Posted Tue Apr 5, 2011, 3:45pm
Subject: 1stcoffeeshop.com?
 

If it's too good to be true, is it?

They are selling the Izzo Alex Duetto II for $1,200 new. There are no ratings online that I can find, and almost no trace of the company whatsoever. Also, I am under the impression Chris's Coffee has some sort of exclusive deal as the only importer of these machines (correct me if I'm wrong).

Click Here (www.1stcoffeeshop.com)
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Posted Tue Apr 5, 2011, 4:18pm
Subject: Re: 1stcoffeeshop.com?
 

Rule of thumb : if it seems to good to be true then it probably is.
We've seen a few people getting burned by companies like this, and generally the best advice is to stay away.  

Click Here (www.home-barista.com)

 
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Posted Tue Apr 5, 2011, 4:37pm
Subject: Re: 1stcoffeeshop.com?
 

This site was discussed in length on Home Barista.
Look carefully at the website - no address, no phone, no owner information... Only contact through webmail. Hmmm...
A look at the domain registration shows it is registered in Indonesia.

 
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Posted Tue Apr 5, 2011, 6:00pm
Subject: Re: 1stcoffeeshop.com?
 

According to the Wayback Machine, this is what their homepage looked like on September 29, 2004:

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Posted Tue Apr 5, 2011, 6:02pm
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I can assure you it has NOTHING to do with me. I have contacted both Quick Mill and Izzo and neither of them know who it is. I have seen this type of scam before and unfortunately people got burned. Be careful!!!!

Chris Nachtrieb, Pres.
Chris' Coffee Service, Inc.
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Posted Tue Apr 5, 2011, 10:29pm
Subject: Re: 1stcoffeeshop.com?
 

Interesting
Could > sketchy

Results returned from whois.publicdomainregistry.com:Registration Service Provided By: PASARHOSTING.COM
Contact: +62.2518348484

Domain Name: 1STCOFFEESHOP.COM

Registrant:
   n/a
   martinus zakharia        (espresso_jonia@yahoo.com)
   katamso 180
   Medan
   Sulawesi Utara,20019
   ID
   Tel.             +62.614147280      

Creation Date: 15-Feb-2010  
Expiration Date: 15-Feb-2012

Domain servers in listed order:
   ns1.pasarhosting.com
   ns2.pasarhosting.com


Administrative Contact:
   n/a
   martinus zakharia        (espresso_jonia@yahoo.com)
   katamso 180
   Medan
   Sulawesi Utara,20019
   ID
   Tel.             +62.614147280      

Technical Contact:
   n/a
   martinus zakharia        (espresso_jonia@yahoo.com)
   katamso 180
   Medan
   Sulawesi Utara,20019
   ID
   Tel.             +62.614147280      

Billing Contact:
   n/a
   martinus zakharia        (espresso_jonia@yahoo.com)
   katamso 180
   Medan
   Sulawesi Utara,20019
   ID
   Tel.             +62.614147280
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Posted Wed Apr 6, 2011, 7:25am
Subject: Re: 1stcoffeeshop.com?
 

Shipping is $350 and they have to contact you about you banking details.  Sounds legit to me!

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Posted Wed Apr 6, 2011, 7:30am
Subject: Re: 1stcoffeeshop.com?
 

if something goes wrong with the machine
what you are going to do about warranty?????
assuming that it is a legit place and you will actually get one

 
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makaira
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Posted Wed Apr 6, 2011, 7:49am
Subject: Re: 1stcoffeeshop.com?
 

bamaster Said:

Shipping is $350 and they have to contact you about you banking details.  Sounds legit to me!

Posted April 6, 2011 link

Ah, the old "I'll provide you with my bank account details" switcheroo. I guess the $1200 is the price you pay for the adventure of figuring out what just happened.
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shochu
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Posted Wed Apr 6, 2011, 7:52am
Subject: Re: 1stcoffeeshop.com?
 

i posted something about interpresso a while ago,
don't bother sending money to them, you might as well send them to me
at least maybe i'll send you a bag of nice indonesian bean  :)

medan is a city, located in the province of north sumatra (mandailing bean anyone?)
sulawesi is a different island altogether (home of the toraja kalosi bean)

061 however, IS, the phone area code for medan (62 for indonesia)
i just called the number, no one picked up, well, that could be because it's now 9:30pm here  :)
katamso road DOES exist, but not sure whether that means anything, but i doubt the number goes as high as 180
the real post codes for katamso road in medan are 20151, 20158, & 20159
the post code 20019 didn't turn up on my search

why would you want to import an espresso machine all the way from here?
wouldn't you get hit by various taxes & import duties over there?

oh, no izzo dealer in indonesia that i know of
espresso machine circle is very small here, you quickly get to know most of the players (in jakarta at least)

with that said, who knows, just MAYBE, they're for real, and we're just shooting at someone's legit business for offering low prices
but, generally speaking, espresso machines are very, very expensive here. much more than your average selling prices in the US
if i'm in he same city, i'd stop by, but i'm not
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