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miken
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Posted Sat Dec 4, 2010, 5:18pm
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Anyone out there who's used this machine care to share their thoughts/experience?  Thanks!
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Posted Sun Dec 5, 2010, 7:35pm
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What are you looking for in a machine?   What is important to you?   What has you looking at the Silvano?

 
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Posted Sun Dec 5, 2010, 10:09pm
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Thanks, symbology.  My first and foremost concern, by a large margin, is finding a machine that makes fantastic espresso.  Second is being able to steam ~ 8oz of milk.  A distant third is being able to create microfoam.

It'll receive light usage: a latte and an espresso, back-to-back in the AM, and the same in the afternoon.  I have a Mazzer SJ and have had a Gaggia Coffee Deluxe for about three years (my first and only machine).  I feel that I've gotten to the point where the quality of my shots are now limited by my equipment rather than my technique.  To confirm this, I took an espresso class at my local bar.  I was pulling shots on their Synesso that were utterly fantastic.

I was ready to pull the trigger on a Silvia when I came across the Silvano.  My budget is $900.

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Posted Sun Dec 5, 2010, 10:13pm
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Touche, Jason :)  There's a great thread on thread Silvano here: "Blurred lines.. Silvano by Quick Mill"

Unfortunately it tends to lean towards comparing thermoblocks to HX and DB machines.  I'm really trying to get an understanding of the the Silvano vs. the Silvia (or similar SB machines).

Cheers.
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Posted Sun Dec 5, 2010, 11:55pm
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miken Said:

Thanks, symbology.  My first and foremost concern, by a large margin, is finding a machine that makes fantastic espresso.  Second is being able to steam ~ 8oz of milk.  A distant third is being able to create microfoam.

It'll receive light usage: a latte and an espresso, back-to-back in the AM, and the same in the afternoon.  I have a Mazzer SJ and have had a Gaggia Coffee Deluxe for about three years (my first and only machine).  I feel that I've gotten to the point where the quality of my shots are now limited by my equipment rather than my technique.  To confirm this, I took an espresso class at my local bar.  I was pulling shots on their Synesso that were utterly fantastic.

I was ready to pull the trigger on a Silvia when I came across the Silvano.  My budget is $900.

Thanks!

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I've been using Silvano for about 3 weeks and have about the same use pattern, 2 espressos AM. If espresso quality is your top concern Silvano should make you really happy. It has a 0.7l boiler sitting right above group head and has PID temp control. Not sure how big is the boiler in Silvia. I had Expobar Control HX machine, I really don't like the flush and go routing. Having PID you know the temp and it's that temp every time. The temp swing is really small. I live close to Barefoot Coffee and the espresso from Silvano is just as good to my untrained palate. If you have any question feel free.
Found the Silvia boiler size,  12-ounce boiler ~= 360cc. Roughly 50% of Silvano. Based on math, Silvano should have better temp stability with a bigger boiler and PID control.
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Posted Mon Dec 6, 2010, 11:43am
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Another great thing about the Silvano is it heats up quickly.   Smallish boiler with the group directly attached.   Within 5 minutes I can kick off my brewing cycle.

 
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Posted Mon Dec 6, 2010, 4:38pm
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Yes and no on heat up time. Yes, the boiler heats up fast. No, the water is heat up but the group/PF is still not up to temp. I've set to 200F but I won't see that temp at least 25-28 mins after the machine is turn on.
The boiler is not really that small, Silvano has a 0.7 liter brew boiler. The Alex Duetto II has a 0.8 liter brew boiler.  ^_^
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Posted Mon Dec 6, 2010, 11:04pm
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I'm another happy Silvano owner. When I first bought it I had some doubts, but I've come to love it. I am really glad that I didn't spend double the money for a HX machine, something I almost did but was talked out of by Scott at Chris Coffee. My only criticism is that it's relatively slow to steam larger ( >12oz ) of milk, but it also gives me plenty of time to get my microfoam right, as well as having time to grind and pull my shots.
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Posted Tue Dec 7, 2010, 8:24am
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slooowr6 Said:

Yes and no on heat up time. Yes, the boiler heats up fast. No, the water is heat up but the group/PF is still not up to temp. I've set to 200F but I won't see that temp at least 25-28 mins after the machine is turn on.
The boiler is not really that small, Silvano has a 0.7 liter brew boiler. The Alex Duetto II has a 0.8 liter brew boiler.  ^_^

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Not sure I follow you.  What takes 25 minutes to get up to 200F?

I do agree that it is not necessarily ready to pull shots in 5  minutes.  My initial brew routine in the morning includes pulling some water through the group, into my shot glass (to preheat).   Then, I grab my cups and fill with water, then microwave to preheat.....       So, it is another 5 minutes before I am even ready to pull a shot.  Add to that the fact that I steam milk first......     Anyway, based on what I have seen on other machines, and have read in regards to a HX like the Andreja, the warmup time on this machine is pretty quick when compared to others.   That was the point that I was trying to convey.

 
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