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Zimberto
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Posted Fri Oct 22, 2010, 6:57pm
Subject: Re: Blurred lines.. Silvano by Quick Mill
 

Endo Said:

Anyone have a photo or sketch of how the grouphead is mounted to the brew boiler? Is it right under like the Dalle Corte Mini or off to the side slightly like a Silvia?

Posted October 22, 2010 link

There are some photos here: Click Here (www.home-barista.com) .
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Posted Sat Oct 23, 2010, 7:16am
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KatKat Said:

For me, it's all about whether or not a machine would fit MY needs.

Posted October 22, 2010 link


I think that's true for everyone.  But not everyone has the same needs.  You, for example, have stressed the importance of steaming performance and latte art.  That is not so important to me.  I wanted a machine that was good enough for me to learn on and was capable of making quality shots of espresso with a minimum of guesswork (sorry, but I call temperature surfing on a SBDU machine guesswork).  I was fairly confident that any espresso machine that I would buy could froth milk as good, if not better, than any stand alone frother, and that's all I really needed in the milk department.  I drink mostly straight shots of espresso and Americanos.  My point was that I think the Silvano's target market is people buying their first espresso machine and want to test the waters rather than folks who are expecting to make visual art in a coffee cup.

I can probably afford a more expensive machine...

I don't think I could really appreciate a more expensive machine at this point even though I can afford it.  I want to develop some skill on the Silvano before I think about spending a lot of money on a high end machine.  Because if I throw down the big bucks, then my expectation will be that every drink is near-perfect every single time.  I want to make sure that my skill level is up to it before diving in that deeply.  The Alex Duetto II, Mini Vivaldi II, and Rocket Giotto Evoluzione (or machines like them) will still be there when I feel the time is right.  Who knows, by then I may decide that I don't really need anything more than the Silvano to make the kind of coffee drinks that I enjoy.  But my wife also knows that there's a chance I will eventually want a little more counter space in the kitchen for a bigger machine.  I don't know when that might happen: it could be never, six months to a year, or next month.  We'll see.  In the meantime, I am enjoying some of the best coffee drinks I have ever had.

--Jerome
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Posted Sat Oct 23, 2010, 7:27am
Subject: Re: Blurred lines.. Silvano by Quick Mill
 

sweaner Said:

What kind of "action" would you like to see.

Posted October 22, 2010 link

Maybe the poster was hoping to see the digital readout change numbers?  ;^)

sweaner Said:

. . . the biggest question about this machine was the steaming power, which this video did answer.  It looks quite reasonable, not as fast as an HX or true DB, but certainly usable.

Posted October 22, 2010 link

Agreed.

 
A morning without coffee is sleep . . .
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Posted Sat Oct 23, 2010, 8:31am
Subject: Re: Blurred lines.. Silvano by Quick Mill
 

i think the metronome-like clunking of the steamer banging away at 88bpm would eventually drive me crazy. (especially before i've had my morning coffee(s) ;)

 
"You can write down how to make the perfect cup of coffee. But to make it really good, you have to play something fictional, you have to dress up, you have to think, This is the most important thing."
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Posted Sun Oct 24, 2010, 3:59pm
Subject: Re: Blurred lines.. Silvano by Quick Mill
 

That sound is the pump pumping small amounts of water into the steaming thermoblock, a little at a time.

 
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Posted Sun Oct 24, 2010, 6:01pm
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It sounds kind of like a heart beat.
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Posted Mon Oct 25, 2010, 5:48am
Subject: Re: Blurred lines.. Silvano by Quick Mill
 

transit Said:

It sounds kind of like a heart beat.

Posted October 24, 2010 link

hahaha   IT'S ALIVE!


sweaner Said:

That sound is the pump pumping small amounts of water into the steaming thermoblock, a little at a time.

Posted October 24, 2010 link

so is that a normal vibe pump making that noise or does the steamer pump differ from your typical pump? i don't hear the usual humming sound along with the clacking while the steamer is running.

 
"You can write down how to make the perfect cup of coffee. But to make it really good, you have to play something fictional, you have to dress up, you have to think, This is the most important thing."
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Posted Mon Oct 25, 2010, 3:56pm
Subject: Re: Blurred lines.. Silvano by Quick Mill
 

mcKoffee Said:

Makes much more sense to steam water to ~175-180f

Posted October 22, 2010 link

I originally dismissed this idea because I don't think that would get the water hot enough to suit me.  I was speaking with Scott today at CCS on another matter and the subject of making Americanos with the Silvano came up.  He made the same suggestion you did.  So I gave it a try tonight.  It does work...but I think dispensing hot water from the Silvano into a 12 oz steaming pitcher works better and is safe.  The water is a little hotter this way, though not has hot as taking water from an electric kettle that just came off the boil.

You may be wondering why this is so important to me.  I usually take coffee in my home office, not in the kitchen.  It's not a far walk my any means, but by the time I get back to my desk and settled my Americano has cooled just a bit and a couple of minutes later it is tepid.  This doesn't happen if I use the electric kettle, where my coffee may be a little to hot to drink in the kitchen but it's just right when I sit down with it at my desk.

It isn't that big a deal.

--Jerome
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Posted Mon Oct 25, 2010, 6:08pm
Subject: Re: Blurred lines.. Silvano by Quick Mill
 

You can steam water to any temperature you want up to and including full boil.

 
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Posted Mon Oct 25, 2010, 6:29pm
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I just went to the machine and tried it.  I prefer the electric kettle.

--Jerome
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