It looks to be the same as the old Giotto, but with a straight sides and a few upgraded parts. I like the look and also the low height.
I haven't read here of any one who owns this machine. Does anyone have experience with this machine they can pass on to me? Is it a good next step for someone upgrading from a Silvia and who also owns a Mazzer SJ grinder?
Endo Senior Member Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 804 Location: , location, location. Expertise: I love coffee
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Posted Wed Dec 3, 2008, 6:34pm Subject: Re: Rocket Cellini Premium Plus
You think the Quickmills are better? It seems the list of features for the new Rocket (Giotto and Cellini) Premium Plus are better than the Quickmills (commercial p-stat, heavier plated boiler, 10mm pipes, 5.5mm 304 stainless, double wall steam wand). Is there some other quality issue that has plaqued ECM Giottos in the past that may now be fixed by the new improvements?
I'm totally ready to buy a cheaper Quickmill Anita if it's better, although the Anitas sell for $1700 in Canada, so I don't see a huge price difference.
What would you recommend as the best HX machine under $2000 CAN (or about $1500 US)?
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Posted Thu Dec 4, 2008, 9:45am Subject: Re: Rocket Cellini Premium Plus
I find it hard to believe that the quality would be higher. It sounds like a Ford VS Chevy VS Dodge thing to me.
Yes I have an ECM. I have also taken the covers off and played around inside a bit. I can tell you there is nothing short on quality with these machines. All high quality, commonly found commercial parts for easy repairs, well mounted and laid out, easy access for any work or mods you would want to do. ECM machines are well regarded as quality units.
If you want the Rocket, have no fear about the purchase, look at the features of all the machines in your price point and buy the one that fits your needs the best.
In real life, my name is Wayne P. Anything I post is personal opinion and is only worth as much as anyone else's personal opinion. YMMV!
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