Noonievut Senior Member Joined: 9 Sep 2006 Posts: 472 Location: Toronto. Canada Expertise: I love coffee
Grinder: Rocky DL Vac Pot: Other - Aeropress, Clever,...
Posted Thu May 17, 2007, 5:31am Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
Alan/Anyone,
On a weekday morning I use a FP to make about 500ml (1/2 litre) of coffee which I pour into a thermos and take to work. I make the coffee around 6:30 and it's consumed by 8:30.
If I was going to use my Aeropress for this purpose, with the goal being 1/2 litre of a strong/smooth brew (Americano I guess), any suggestions for ratio of beans and water in the Aeropress, and hot water to add afterwards?
Yes I can play around with this but time is an issue, so I would rather take a suggestion someone is happy with themselves and try it out.
Thanks.
P.S. Without any suggestions, I would probably do the following:
- 2 scoops of beans - water to the middle of the 2 - add hot water to fill the rest of the thermos - I assume it doesn't matter if it's hot water added in the thermos 1st or 2nd
Posted Thu May 17, 2007, 8:39am Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
Hi Noonievut,
The amount of coffee needed to make 500ml of brew calculates to 3.5 AeroPress scoops. That would make 500ml of coffee brewed to the SCAA "Gold Standard" for strength and extraction level. You mentioned that you like it strong, so you might want more. But 3.5 scoops would be a good starting point.
Press into a cup, pour the concentrate into the thermos, then top-off with hot water. I often do this befor a long drive.
Best regards,
Alan
Math: 500ml = 17.6 ounces. Then divide ounces by 5 to get number of scoops. Or, simply divide ml by 142 to get scoops.
Noonievut Senior Member Joined: 9 Sep 2006 Posts: 472 Location: Toronto. Canada Expertise: I love coffee
Grinder: Rocky DL Vac Pot: Other - Aeropress, Clever,...
Posted Thu May 17, 2007, 8:54am Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
Thanks Alan.
Follow-up question on water:
How much water with 3 1/2 scoops (in the Aeropress)?
Follow-up question on grind:
I've used 2 1/2 scoops before and have my grinder set so it takes about 15 pounds of pressure to plunge. Because I'm using 1 additional scoop, will plunging be more difficult (does amount of coffee impact plunge)? Do I have to go to a coarser grind?
Posted Thu May 17, 2007, 11:39am Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
Noonievut Said:
Thanks Alan.
Follow-up question on water:
How much water with 3 1/2 scoops (in the Aeropress)?
Follow-up question on grind:
I've used 2 1/2 scoops before and have my grinder set so it takes about 15 pounds of pressure to plunge. Because I'm using 1 additional scoop, will plunging be more difficult (does amount of coffee impact plunge)? Do I have to go to a coarser grind?
I suggest filling to between the 3 and 4 on the chamber. The exact amount of water used during pressing is less important than the ratio of scoops to diluted Americano. One scoop per five ounces of Americano is standard.
It definitely takes longer to press more scoops, and my (oft repeated) advice to PRESS GENTLY is especially important in that case. If you press hard, the flow will choke. If you're patient your present grind will press through but it could take 60 seconds. However the only (minor) downside of a coarser grind is a slightly weaker brew.
Noonievut Senior Member Joined: 9 Sep 2006 Posts: 472 Location: Toronto. Canada Expertise: I love coffee
Grinder: Rocky DL Vac Pot: Other - Aeropress, Clever,...
Posted Fri May 18, 2007, 5:22am Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
AlanAdler Said:
I suggest filling to between the 3 and 4 on the chamber. The exact amount of water used during pressing is less important than the ratio of scoops to diluted Americano. One scoop per five ounces of Americano is standard.
It definitely takes longer to press more scoops, and my (oft repeated) advice to PRESS GENTLY is especially important in that case. If you press hard, the flow will choke. If you're patient your present grind will press through but it could take 60 seconds. However the only (minor) downside of a coarser grind is a slightly weaker brew.
This morning I used 3 scoops of coffee (after putting this much in the grinder I was surprised at how much more coffee this is then what I usually use for FP (3 volume ounces dosed via shot glass), hence why I didn't use 3 1/2. I filled the water to just before the top as there is so much coffee in the cylander that I figured it didn't matter. I also used water at just before boiling.
The results is smooth (as expected with the aeropress) and a little weaker than I would like (but just a little weaker).
I'm using fresh beans, an espresso blend.
Any tips for getting my 1/2 litre a little stronger without adding more coffee?
I have the grinder set so I can plunge in about 1 minute...any finer and it will be a huge effort (I've done that before).
Posted Fri May 18, 2007, 4:27pm Subject: Re: major leakage
You already have!
rasqual Said:
Ignore the instructions for the device and put your own brewing knowledge to work. Seriously. I use 10 grams and get a rich 5.7 ounce cup from 6 ounces of water. By "rich" I mean that the total dissolved solids is spot-on -- it's not weak.
I guess that you would have to use more than 1 AP, or do a couple of brews with 1 to get a thermos-full using these amounts, but these instructions led to one of the 3 best coffees I have had in my life.
I recently made a cup of Idido Misty Valley in the AP using 10gm and 6oz water; the taste of sweet peaches was stunning.
Posted Fri May 18, 2007, 5:03pm Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
Noonievut Said:
This morning I used 3 scoops of coffee (after putting this much in the grinder I was surprised at how much more coffee this is than what I usually use for FP (3 volume ounces dosed via shot glass), hence why I didn't use 3 1/2. I filled the water to just before the top as there is so much coffee in the cylinder that I figured it didn't matter. I also used water at just before boiling.
The results is smooth (as expected with the aeropress) and a little weaker than I would like (but just a little weaker).
I'm using fresh beans, an espresso blend.
Any tips for getting my 1/2 litre a little stronger without adding more coffee? Thanks.
A good espresso blend is milder than a good non-espresso blend. Good espresso blends are built on a base of flatter, milder, beans such as Brazil and/or robusta. This is done to make the concentrated espresso more palatable. I think that you would find greater strength with a non-espresso blend.
But don't be shy about throwing another scoop into the equation. My own philosophy is that life is too short to skimp on scoops. At $10/lb, another scoop adds about 25 cents. For a half-liter of brew, that's about a dime per mug.
Best regards,
Alan
PS To my dear friend rasqual: I find quite consistent results in the weight of a level scoop of beans. But, as you know, the weight of a scoop of grind can be lower if it hasn't been shaken down.
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