spaciouscowboy Senior Member Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 2 Location: Oxford, UK Expertise: Just starting
Posted Tue Jul 15, 2008, 7:38am Subject: Opinons? La Pavoni Domus Bar DMB
Hi there, long time reader, first time poster ;)
Wondering whether anyone has an opinion on the La Pavoni Domus Bar DMB - I have actually ordered it already but i figure if someone tells me really bad things about it I can always sell it on unopened in the box. I know the grinder only has 7 settings which prob won't be brilliant for advanced coffee making but I am an extreme beginner and don't have a lot of space in my kitchen which is why I went for the combo machine.
spaciouscowboy Senior Member Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 2 Location: Oxford, UK Expertise: Just starting
Posted Tue Jul 15, 2008, 1:29pm Subject: Re: Opinons? La Pavoni Domus Bar DMB
Okay...gotcha.
Well then...luckily the ebayer I was buying it off hadn't sent it yet and so agreed that I could change my order. The only grinder she has is a ISOMAC GRANMACININO, but as far as I can tell this is a decent entry level grinder, and has a fairly small footprint. Anything more for me would be overkill I think and if I really get into this stuff I can always upgrade.
but now I have a choice between the Rancilio Miss Silvia and the La Pavoni Puccino PCL...I am slightly afraid of the Silvia lol as I think that it takes A LOT of patience in order to master (though I understand it has superior results when mastered). I also think it probably need to be PID'd in order to be at it's best...am i right? Anyway, the puccino also has brass innards and seems to be pretty decent. I just don't know. I had already bought two KitchenAid Artisian (dual boilers) but they both broke quickly (one within 4 days and the other as soon as I got it home!!) so am steering clear of them.
Who would have thought this would be so complicated...
myounder Senior Member Joined: 29 Jan 2013 Posts: 4 Location: Toronto Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Wed Jan 30, 2013, 1:05pm Subject: Re: Opinons? La Pavoni Domus Bar DMB
I see only one negative reply, so I'm not sure that forms a consensus. I too was looking at that machine. It is convenient for the space challenged. Does the boiler heat really effect the beans? The boiler is only on for a short period each time the coffee is made (assuming you don't leave the machine on all the time). The big issue I was thinking about was the quality of the built in grinder.
qualin Senior Member Joined: 30 Jun 2012 Posts: 496 Location: Calgary, AB Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Izzo Alex Duetto 3 Grinder: Mazzer Mini Elect. Type A Vac Pot: Looking to buy Drip: Manual Roaster: Considering?
Posted Wed Jan 30, 2013, 9:41pm Subject: Re: Opinons? La Pavoni Domus Bar DMB
You always want to keep your grinder separate from the machine for a variety of reasons.
If the grinder breaks down, you don't have to replace the entire machine.
A separate grinder will always have a higher quality than one which comes built into the machine.
Upgrade path
myounder's comment is a little off. A small consumer grade espresso machine must be kept on for a minimum of 15-30 minutes in order to ensure good temperature stability. Then, it can take another 10 minutes to prepare a milk drink, at which time the boiler has to operate at a much higher temperature for steaming. Some people leave their machines on all day. You want the heat from the boiler to keep the cups ontop nice and warm so your coffee stays hot when you brew it. :-)
For spaciouscowboy, Overkill is a relative term. It all depends on what you need, what your budget is and what you want out of your equipment. The problem is that a lot of people buy inferior, cheap equipment and then are disappointed with the results, then end up selling it. When you spend that bit extra, the equipment you'll buy will result in a higher level of satisfaction.
The Silvia isn't as difficult to use as you think, but it must be used with a decent grinder, otherwise you won't be happy with it. My first espresso machine was a Silvia with a Rocky grinder. It took me about 40 minutes to make my first cappuccino, then 10 minutes after that once I learned how to dial in the grinder.
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