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drtzali
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Posted Sat Dec 15, 2007, 9:49pm
Subject: Got an Expobar Office Control
 

just picked it up tonight...the machine is freaking huge compared to my old Carezza, wife will kill me when she sees it on the counter!

I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed by it tonight...it's my first HX machine. Is there a manual for using it, available online? I couldn't find anything comprehensible on expobar.com.

I guess that's it for now...I'm sure I'll post more questions as I start to figure it out.
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Posted Sat Dec 15, 2007, 10:39pm
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There is a FAQ for it here if that helps at all:

Whole Latte Love - Expobar Office Control FAQ

It looks like a really nice machine, and I was always looking into getting an Expobar because you get some nice features for the price.  I didn't realize they were so big, though.
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Posted Sat Dec 15, 2007, 11:45pm
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The CG first look helped me out a lot when i used one.. It's a pretty good prosumer machine and once you go HX you'll never realize how you lived without one.
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Posted Sun Dec 16, 2007, 3:37am
Subject: Re: Got an Expobar Office Control
 

ok - here's my first (probably dumb) question:

Is this machine (and I suppose, all HX's) supposed to be decalcified? WLL's faq says it should not..but I wonder...what happens to all the mineral buildup inside it?

Also, the previous owner of the machine claims to have decalcified it...is this a problem?

thanx....
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Posted Sun Dec 16, 2007, 7:19am
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Don't use regular tap water in it.  The boiler has to be removed to be decalcified.  I've used Crystal Geyser for almost two years with no calcification in the tank (so hopefully little or no calicification in the boiler).
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Posted Sun Dec 16, 2007, 7:44am
Subject: Re: Got an Expobar Office Control
 

ok, so my questions are as follow:

how can I tell if the boiler is currently calcified?

if the previous owner actually ran decalcifying solution through it, will it ever come out of the machine, or will I be drinking decalcifying solution in my espresso forever?

thanx...
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Posted Sun Dec 16, 2007, 8:05am
Subject: Re: Got an Expobar Office Control
 

First thing to do is to learn how your new machine works: Read the HX Love page

Next, look up the hot water spigot. If it's crusted with flaky, grayish-white powdery residue that is a sure sign of neglect.


OK?  After that you might want to learn how to CLEAN your machine: CLICK THIS
If you want to know more about water and descaling machines then read this one:  CLICKY CLICKY

Congrats on your new machine!

 
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Posted Sun Dec 16, 2007, 8:27am
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hi

the http://www.expobarownersgroup.com may be helpful.

jon

 
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Posted Mon Dec 17, 2007, 7:24am
Subject: Re: Got an Expobar Office Control
 

JonR10 Said:

First thing to do is to learn how your new machine works: Read the HX Love page

Next, look up the hot water spigot. If it's crusted with flaky, grayish-white powdery residue that is a sure sign of neglect.


OK?  After that you might want to learn how to CLEAN your machine: CLICK THIS
If you want to know more about water and descaling machines then read this one:  CLICKY CLICKY

Congrats on your new machine!

Posted December 16, 2007 link

I had actually read the HB pieces months ago, when first getting into espresso, but I re-read them yesterday to refresh.

the machine is in quite good condition...no flaking, crusting, or other signs of neglect, the owner says he backflushed regularly.

Ok, now is when the learning curve starts. My first day with the machine I pulled several drinkable shots. Beginner's luck I guess? Today, I was unable to pull anything drinkable. All shots were terribly bitter. Of course, the first thing I tried was flushing for longer before pulling the shot. I flushed out 16 ounces of water to be on the safe side...still just as bitter.

Another issue I'm having is with the drip-tray. There's a tube that hangs down in the back, which functions to release the pressure of the 3-way valve I think. That tube gets in the way of putting the grate on the drip-tray, for the cups to sit on. Any suggestions about this? Also, even when the grate is sitting securely, the cup slowly slides to the side when the pump is on, due to the vibration.

Any ideas?

thank you to everyone for your help...
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Posted Mon Dec 17, 2007, 7:38am
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drtzali Said:

Also, even when the grate is sitting securely, the cup slowly slides to the side when the pump is on, due to the vibration..

Posted December 17, 2007 link

if you have a rubber back flush disc you can put it under the cup.

make the little pokey bump point down between the grate leaving the rubber flat part on top.

this is a perfect no-slip surface for the cup.

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