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Cakesniffer
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Posted Sun Jan 15, 2006, 8:24pm
Subject: Silvia Leaky Pump Connection: Fixable?
 

So I figured out that my Silvia's developing rust on the bottom body seam because it has a leak.

I'm not sure whether I should return the machine for a new one (offered already by the retailer) or fix the leak.  Does anyone know how to fix it?  I suspect the connection's just not that tight.  I could move it with my fingers.  But any advice would be appreciated.

Even if I can fix the leak, the body already has rust, which doesn't thrill me.  But it seems like they all develop it eventually.  So perhaps I should fix the leak and keep this Silvia, avoiding being without a machine for a few weeks.  What do you think?  (And do you know how to fix the leak?)

Thanks...

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Posted Sun Jan 15, 2006, 8:34pm
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Return it, subito!!
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Posted Sun Jan 15, 2006, 11:45pm
Subject: Re: Silvia Leaky Pump Connection: Fixable?
 

Cakesniffer Said:

So I figured out that my Silvia's developing rust on the bottom body seam because it has a leak.

I'm not sure whether I should return the machine for a new one (offered already by the retailer) or fix the leak.  Does anyone know how to fix it?  I suspect the connection's just not that tight.  I could move it with my fingers.  But any advice would be appreciated.

Even if I can fix the leak, the body already has rust, which doesn't thrill me.  But it seems like they all develop it eventually.  So perhaps I should fix the leak and keep this Silvia, avoiding being without a machine for a few weeks.  What do you think?  (And do you know how to fix the leak?)

Thanks...

Posted January 15, 2006 link

Where did you get it from.

When I got mine, it had those signs and I thought I saw some water back there but I was being sloppy with the hoses and the reservoir, so cleaned it up and nothing more.  So I forgot about it.

After these threads I took my machine apart (removed reservoir, removed top plate, removed reflector plate) and pushed Silvia as hard as I could, including decalcifying it (lots of backflushes and force OPV with hotwater switch on and steam valve closed), and I could not get it to leak.  I could see some residue (reminds me of solder flux) right beneath that joint.  Also, I notice that my joint has what looks like teflon tape on it, whereas yours does not.

My Silvia was a 30-day return (someone bought it from Chris' Coffee and returned it within 30 days).  I then bought it from Chris' for $380ppd and have since felt very lucky because I have found nothing wrong with it.  This may indeed have been the thing that WAS wrong with it.  Too bad, it could be easily fixed with whatever  (if you got yours from Chris' call them and ask them what they used to fix it and see if you want to do the repair yourself.  (I would do it in a heartbeat, but I'm a geek junkie)  Removing the rear part of the case is easy - don't forget the bolt at the bottom back as you look down into it.

 
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Posted Mon Jan 16, 2006, 12:37am
Subject: Re: Silvia Leaky Pump Connection: Fixable?
 

Cakesniffer Said:

So I figured out that my Silvia's developing rust on the bottom body seam because it has a leak.

I'm not sure whether I should return the machine for a new one (offered already by the retailer) or fix the leak.  Does anyone know how to fix it?  I suspect the connection's just not that tight.  I could move it with my fingers.  But any advice would be appreciated.

Even if I can fix the leak, the body already has rust, which doesn't thrill me.  But it seems like they all develop it eventually.  So perhaps I should fix the leak and keep this Silvia, avoiding being without a machine for a few weeks.  What do you think?  (And do you know how to fix the leak?)

Thanks...

Posted January 15, 2006 link

The front outlet of the pump pushed water with upto 15 bar pressure. It is possible to find leak if the brass fitting is not tight. It is very simple to stop the leak. Remove the brass fitting. Use few wraps of Teflon tape and install the brass fitting tight. Operate the pump and see if leak has stopped before closing the cover.

As for the rust, try to remove the rust build up by scraping it with fine sand paper. Apply a thin film of lube as a barrier for contact with oxygen. You can apply a thin film of lube on any other parts that come in contatc with water (especially hot water). The parts around the leak are not chrome plated so it rusted fast. I have seen chrome plated base in LaPavoni Europiccola and Professional get rust below the drip pan and also lower rim of the base.  Prevention is better.

Good luck.
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Cakesniffer
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Posted Mon Jan 16, 2006, 9:37am
Subject: Re: Silvia Leaky Pump Connection: Fixable?
 

I got it from a well-known online retailer who was very good about saying "send it back for a new one."  They're even going to send me a shipping label.  I just need to box it up.

The catch is that Silvias are backordered there for at least a couple of weeks.  So if I send it back, I'll be without a machine for a while and there's always the chance that the new one will have the same problem.  If I keep it, I can probably fix that leak, but my machine already has rust now, and I'll probably void the warranty by fixing the leak.

So that's the dilemma, assuming that I can indeed fix that leak.  If the frame weren't already rusting, I'd probably do it, but I might just send it back for a new (backordered one) and try to start fresh.

(As an aside: there's a glaring lack of machines in the $500 to $800 range.  I'd consider moving up to the next level from Silvia, but the $800 Expobar Pulser appears to be the next level.  Isomac used to make a couple in this range, but it looks like they don't anymore.)
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