Posted Wed Dec 21, 2005, 1:17pm Subject: Re: new Quick Mill Vetrano - first shots
Good to hear about the Cunill. Sounds like it found a good home. Looks like mine will take a back-up roll as of Christmas... My wife bought a Macap M4 for me. I'm just hoping that it produces a grind like the Cunill. But what I'm hoping for most is that she'll allow me to keep it next the Andreja in the Kitchen (fingers crossed).
Posted Wed Dec 21, 2005, 9:27pm Subject: Re: new Quick Mill Vetrano - first shots
Wow! That is one great looking machine and those shots are beautiful! I think Chris has outdone himself and put himself in a good place to compete with the Brewtus II. I love my QuickMill machine. The build quality is fantastic. These will go quickly!
Posted Wed Dec 21, 2005, 11:23pm Subject: Re: new Quick Mill Vetrano - first shots
Thanks all. So far I really like this machine. One minor gripe so far: the drip tray is a bit short, and will be hard to plumb. Lots and lots of positives: good packaging by Chris & Co, great setup, brew temp and pressure are excellent right out of the box, easy to connect, love the no-burn wands, certainly more forgiving than my previous two HX machines. I've pulled less than a dozen shots on it, so these are just first impressions... but I believe they will hold up.
IMHO, Vetrano is not a direct competitor of Brewtus - probably the Fiorenzato Briccoletta has that honor. When (and if) Chris comes out with a double boiler machine, then it will be look out Brewtus!
Posted Wed Jan 25, 2006, 7:31pm Subject: Re: new Quick Mill Vetrano - first shots
Rapidcoffee,
Got some more pics of the machine? I got the two you already uploaded. I thought I could hold out for the now illusive dual boiler from Chriscoffee, but I feel myself beginning to waver. I currently have a PID'd Silvia which makes great shots, but the steaming thing is really starting to get to me. From what I have been picking up, the HX water dance thing really is not that big of a deal. I'm feeling a purchase this year. Probably a ridiculous request, but if you happen to have a Silvia laying around, a side by side :) Anyways, just trying to get more of a feel of the machine, scale and such. One other purchase would be stepping up to a Mazzer from a Rocky, K-ching.
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Posted Thu Jan 26, 2006, 12:37am Subject: Re: new Quick Mill Vetrano - first shots
slider Said:
Rapidcoffee,
Got some more pics of the machine? I got the two you already uploaded. I thought I could hold out for the now illusive dual boiler from Chriscoffee, but I feel myself beginning to waver. I currently have a PID'd Silvia which makes great shots, but the steaming thing is really starting to get to me. From what I have been picking up, the HX water dance thing really is not that big of a deal. I'm feeling a purchase this year. Probably a ridiculous request, but if you happen to have a Silvia laying around, a side by side :) Anyways, just trying to get more of a feel of the machine, scale and such. One other purchase would be stepping up to a Mazzer from a Rocky, K-ching.
What you hear is correct HX dance wise. No biggy and very accurate. Moved up from my PIDd auto-water filled Misstress of 3&1/2 years a couple months ago. (to rotary leverette Bricoletta) I too had been holding out for the dual boiler PID Quick Mill that may or may not happen, but ZERO regrets with the Bricoletta and her performance. Compared head to head shots before selling Missy and found an improvement in Clarity, more distinct tastes in the shots. And shots much more forgiving than Missy. Don't know how much has to do with E-61 group versus rotary or combination of the two, but will never go back to vibe!
PS Not trying to hijack your thread on your fab' new Vetrano, trying to elaborate on HX, E-61 and rotary all components of the Vetrana. Though I would love to do a head to head with a Vetrano and Bricoletta some day! (I would have to mod my Bric' so it had a brew pressure gauge first of course so I wouldn't have to hang my head in shame;-)
Posted Fri Feb 3, 2006, 10:09pm Subject: Re: new Quick Mill Vetrano - first shots
slider Said:
Rapidcoffee,
Got some more pics of the machine? I got the two you already uploaded. I thought I could hold out for the now illusive dual boiler from Chriscoffee, but I feel myself beginning to waver. I currently have a PID'd Silvia which makes great shots, but the steaming thing is really starting to get to me. From what I have been picking up, the HX water dance thing really is not that big of a deal. I'm feeling a purchase this year. Probably a ridiculous request, but if you happen to have a Silvia laying around, a side by side :) Anyways, just trying to get more of a feel of the machine, scale and such. One other purchase would be stepping up to a Mazzer from a Rocky, K-ching.
Hi Daniel, and apologies for the belated reply, somehow I missed your post. Let me know what pix you would like and I'll try to upload 'em. Basically the Vetrano is yet another shiny SS box dominated by the exposed E61 group head. Perhaps not as elegantly designed as the Giotto Premium or as pleated Art Deco as the Bric, but striking enough if you like that look. Sorry, I can't do side-by-side comparison with Silvia, but you can get machine dimensions off the Chris' Coffee website.
Mike answered the HX question in much the way I would have. Having owned a Silvia, he's actually in a better position to give you feedback. (BTW, you might consider the Bric, it sounds like a great alternative to the Vetrano.) Another good resource would be Tim (Cajun_Brew),who upgraded from a Silvia to the QM Anita (similar to Vetrano but pourover machine with a vibe pump). If you enjoy milk-based espresso drinks, HX machines offer a great amount of added value over single boilers. Don't let the supposed difficulty of the HX flush put you off - this has been overstated by people who've never owned an HX machine. It's easy to hear when the overheated water has been flushed and you can start the pour, especially with the really quiet pump on the Vetrano.
I do hope Chris doesn't abandon his double boiler machine - we need more choices in that arena. DBs offer some nice improvements over HX machines, because you can set the brew and steam temps independently. Unfortunately choices are limited to Brewtus and LaSpaz S1, both significantly more costly than Bric or Vetrano.
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