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hunts
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Posted Wed May 25, 2005, 7:22pm
Subject: You had me at hello
 

Hi, I've been kinda lurking around here for a while.  I keep hearing about how the grinder is the most important component (as well as JonR's exploits).  I started out with a whirly blade from Bodum and then upgraded to a Zaus.  But I still wanted more.  I seriously considered getting the Gaggia MDF, but I really wanted to get the doserless Rocky.  It costed 85 USD more.  But thanks to Circuits sharing a discount code with us all ("Machine and grinder buying experience...so far, FWIW"), I ended up getting the Rocky for 70 USD more than the MDF instead! :)  

I just received the Rocky this afternoon, and it is quite heavy!  Looking at the build and construction of the Rocky, I can tell you this is a high quality product that is built to last.  The only problem was that there were coffee grounds all over the place.  I thought it was a used/returned/refurbished unit.  But I later realized it went through the standard testing process, so for folks who plan on getting this grinder, it's normal (wonder what kind of coffee they used?).  I spent most of the afternoon cleaning out the grinder and polishing it up.  I attempted to remove the hopper, but then realized it required a screwdriver to remove the 3 screws.  Oddly, I couldn't find any instructions on dismantling the unit for cleaning.  The registration card appeared to be in a foreign language addressed to a foreign country.  I still can't believe my grinder is more expensive than my espresso machine!  Then again, looking at them both side-by-side, the Rocky almost makes my Gaggia seem like a toy!

I was thinking about using instant rice to clean the Rocky, but was not sure if that's a good idea.  Evening time came and it was too late for me to use the grinder to make an espresso (tomorrow's a work day!).  I guess I'll be using my Rocky for the first time tomorrow then.  Can hardly wait! :)  

Thanks to all for sharing your thoughts, experiences, and insights here.  It is one of the things I always enjoy and look forward to everyday.  Keep posting folks!
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JonR10
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Roaster: 1-lb US Roaster, Behmor 1600
Posted Thu May 26, 2005, 3:01am
Subject: Re: You had me at hello
 

hunts Said:

I spent most of the afternoon cleaning out the grinder and polishing it up.  I attempted to remove the hopper, but then realized it required a screwdriver to remove the 3 screws.  Oddly, I couldn't find any instructions on dismantling the unit for cleaning.  

Posted May 25, 2005 link

Congrats on the new grinder Simon!  
If you haven't seen this before it may be helpful: "How to Clean a Rancilio Rocky"

Cheers,
Jon

 
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AnnP
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Posted Thu May 26, 2005, 4:35am
Subject: I got one too!
 

My doserless Rocky just showed up this weekend, so the cleaning guide was helpful, thanks JonR for linking that in.

How often does Rocky need to be cleaned?  I am the only user and generally only one or two coffees a day but I am grinding for espresso.

Ann
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Espresso: La Marzocco Shot Brewer
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Posted Thu May 26, 2005, 5:09am
Subject: Re: I got one too!
 

Ann, I would say, at your discretion. Totally. once a week is great for cleanliness, but once a month is probably fine too.

That is for thorough cleanings, though. You need to make sure you clean out the coffee path after every session, I would say. Some people sitck vacuums in their doser to get the stuff out... the most important part, if yours is anything like a mazzer, is the chute between the burr housing and the doser. That's where stale grinds will tend to build up between uses, so make sure you sweep them out daily! :)
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hunts
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Drip: Cuisinart SS-1 Cup-O-Matic
Posted Thu May 26, 2005, 6:26pm
Subject: thanks!
 

Thanks,  Jon!  I actually stumbled upon that useful link right before I checked back here. (I'm a firm believer of the "search" button.)  :)  

Like Ann, I do pull about 1 or 2 shots a day.  With my Zaus, I would brush that thing clean after every use.  Then again, I'm just a neat freak / borderline obsessive-compulsive.  

Nicolas, I like the vacuum idea!  I think I'm going to give it a whirl this weekend and hopefully not suck up any vital parts.  Using that brush yesterday was tiring.. almost felt like I was a CSI dusting for prints!  Just when I thought I was done, I decided to give it a gently pat on the back, and more grinds came out through the chute.

I can't wait till this weekend, because I'll be trying the settings out and pulling many shots until I can pull a shot as good (or at least as close) as Jon's famous shots!
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Posted Thu May 26, 2005, 7:26pm
Subject: Re: thanks!
 

Also, a "click-clack" lid (do a search of click clack) will pump out the grinds that fail to exit...a .7 litre size, I believe..

 
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ChicagoSandy
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Espresso: Quickmill "La Cora,"  Silvia
Grinder: Mazzer Mini, Rocky DL
Vac Pot: Presses, Aeropress
Drip: postnasal, Technivorm
Roaster: Behmor, I-Roast2, SC/TO
Posted Thu May 26, 2005, 9:04pm
Subject: Re: You had me at hello
 

hunts Said:

Evening time came and it was too late for me to use the grinder to make an espresso (tomorrow's a work day!).  I guess I'll be using my Rocky for the first time tomorrow then.  

Posted May 25, 2005 link

Buy some great decaf and you'll be knocing back shots till bedtime!

 
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twomartinis
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Posted Thu May 26, 2005, 9:33pm
Subject: Re: thanks!
 

Congrats, you'll love the Rocky! As far as keeping it spic and span, as long as you get the random coffee nuggets out of the hopper (remove the finger guard - it's useless) and the chute, you're good to go. I use a chemistry tool called a 'spooula' to sweep the stray grounds, but a small brush, chopstick or similar tool works wonders at keeping the Rocky clean...

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hunts
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Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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Location: New Jersey
Expertise: I love coffee

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Grinder: Rocky
Drip: Cuisinart SS-1 Cup-O-Matic
Posted Mon May 30, 2005, 5:47pm
Subject: Re: You had me at hello
 

Thanks for all the pointers and comments, guys!  I wish I could spend more time here, because there is so much to go through after using the "search" button!

IMAWriter, I read up on the "click-clack" lid idea and tested it out.  After I brushed the grinder up and patted then patted on the back, more grounds came out with the click-clack!  The vacuum cleaner really sucked it clean though (although my significant other was looking at me with a "what the f**k are you doing" expression on her face).  I'm definitely going to use my click-clack everytime after I finish using the Rocky.  

ChicagoSandy, I never though of using decaf before (probably because I have this cheezy pre-conceived notion that decaf is not as good as regular?), but I think I'll find some decaf and give it a whirl.

twomartinis, speaking of the chute, I accidentally cracked a small piece of it off while I was vacuuming it!  Thank goodness for crazy glue though.  But just curious, wouldn't the grounds spit all over the place without the chute?  I have to admit it is a bit too low when dispensing into the portafilter.

I only had the opportunity to grind 2 shots so far.  I put the setting at 11 (my zero setting is actually zero), and it choked my Gaggia.  Then I put it at 15, and it came out quite nicely in about 37 seconds.  I think I'll try 16 next time.  These beans I have are old (roasted by Peets back in December!), but I use them to make an iced latte.  That's odd though.. I thought older beans need to be grinded finer?  Maybe I need to clean my Gaggia, because I haven't used any cleaning tablets on it yet and have been using it every other day since December!

Anyway, I'm glad I don't have to use my Zass anymore, because that drill I use on it is quite heavy!  I'll keep it as a back-up unit should I decided to do drip or french-press.
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ChicagoSandy
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Location: SW Coast of Lake Michigan
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Quickmill "La Cora,"  Silvia
Grinder: Mazzer Mini, Rocky DL
Vac Pot: Presses, Aeropress
Drip: postnasal, Technivorm
Roaster: Behmor, I-Roast2, SC/TO
Posted Mon May 30, 2005, 6:09pm
Subject: Re: You had me at hello
 

Dunno what's available in Oz (been a long time since I visited a Gloria Jean's on this side of the Pacific because I can get much fresher beans elsewhere), but decaf has come a LONG way in the past decade.  Best decaf espresso out there is Metropolis Decaf Red Line (with Intelligentsia SWP Decaf Black Cat not far behind). They're a little darker than their regular equivalents, but still very flavorful and not at all over-roasted like decaf beans from Starbucks.  You could probably get them shipped DHL Int'l or FedEx.

 
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