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shadowfax
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Espresso: La Marzocco Shot Brewer
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 2:28pm
Subject: New machine Stateside... BFC Junior Plus, AKA La Valentina Junior.
 

finally passed customs, apparently...

I put my order in for the first one today, got $100 off! yay!

Unfortunately, I can't actually buy it for 2 weeks when I get my first paycheck from the National Lab here, so I may not be the first person in the US to get the US version of the machine, but I'm so excited! heh! I guess it's too soon to say, LOOK OUT, JONR, isn't it?

Oh well... by the first week in June, I'll be pulling naked shots again!
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jakethecoffeelover
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Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
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Espresso: Gaggia Espresso
Grinder: Mazzer Super Jolly...
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 2:35pm
Subject: Re: New machine Stateside... BFC Junior Plus, AKA La Valentina Junior.
 

Let's recap... you had the Gaggia and helped me with mine. Then, I'm dissapponted. You got a Sylvia. I figured "eh, what the heck.... it's not like I couldn't have got one if I really wanted to" Then, you sell it and talk about getting a commercial machine. THEN, it turns out you are getting this bigger and badder rancilio look-a-like and are gonna hand my ass to me again! Damn you, shadowfax, damn you!

P.S. If I'm ever in the Oklahoma area, how about a few shots?

 
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shadowfax
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 2:57pm
Subject: Re: New machine Stateside... BFC Junior Plus, AKA La Valentina Junior.
 

Well, for the record, I didn't actually sell the Silvia... I returned it to 1st-line and got credit towards this machine. Which, by the way, looks absolutely nothing like anything Rancilio sells. I don't think they have E61's at all. ;)

You should come visit me in New Mexico (where I am now), and I'll pull you some shots. We could experiment with the Denver effect (7000 feet elevation here). How high up are you? I'm curious to see what that's like.
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Roaster: Hearthware iRoast
Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 6:10pm
Subject: Re: New machine Stateside... BFC Junior Plus, AKA La Valentina Junior.
 

I'm a few feet below sea level here I think. That Denver effect might really mess it all up! The Rancilio comment was due to my lack of knowledge of higher end machines, but excess knowledge of the shininess of the Sylvia! It's really way nicer! I'm getting jeaulous. Oh well, I'll be modding my Gaggia after provincial exams (basically an exam that counts for 20% of my mark in English, Science, and Math this year, it's a government exam... not sure what the American equivalent might be).

 
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Vac Pot: Perhaps in the future...
Drip: Insulated Bodum Kenya FP
Roaster: Hearthware iRoast
Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 6:20pm
Subject: Re: New machine Stateside... BFC Junior Plus, AKA La Valentina Junior.
 

How about  we exchange some info here, then! I think the Gaggia runs at 9.5bar. With my grind setting at 1.5 full numbers (15 notches) off of the burrs touching on my Super Jolly, coupled with the maximum dose (where after a 25-35 pound tamp, it creates friction the showerscreen while locking in), gives me a tiny bit less than 2/3oz with the double basket. When it's at 2 notches above the burrs touching with the same variables, I get 2oz. I usually don't go any higher. How about you? By the way, I tend to cut my shots at 24-26 seconds, but have gone up to 35 before. Of course, my shots work best with the bottom of the boiler cycle. I think that's something like 194F on the Gaggia Espresso.

 
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shadowfax
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 7:09pm
Subject: Re: New machine Stateside... BFC Junior Plus, AKA La Valentina Junior.
 

I honestly don't remember. I think i was usually around 12 notches away from burrs touching. I'm not sure why you think your pulls are 9.5 bar, lol. You would have to set your OPV at 9.5, somehow, to guarantee that. A ristretto will probably take you all the way to 10 or 11 bars. On Silvia I'd run shots up to around 50 seconds sometimes, big time, thick, luscious ristrettos. But 25-35 is definitely a good ristretto range on silvia. The 50 second pours were honestly a bit too much. great for lattés, though.

Getting back onto topic, is there anyone else interested in this machine? Jim mentioned on the HB forums that there was quite a bit of interest in them; I can't imagine I was the only one....
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 7:12pm
Subject: Re: New machine Stateside... BFC Junior Plus, AKA La Valentina Junior.
 

My bad! I was talking about a non-ristretto shot, the pump setting I guess you can call it. I realize that my pours must go above this. I wasn't talking about the ristretti. Anywho, it would be funny if you could steam at brewing temperature there! Next step is to travel to Nepal with your BFC!

 
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Posted Mon May 16, 2005, 7:30pm
Subject: Re: New machine Stateside... BFC Junior Plus, AKA La Valentina Junior.
 

well... I think i am just going to have to set the pressurestat way low. As I understand it, if water boils around 206 F, coffee is going to burn at regular brew temp, most likely. I think i'll have to lower both the steam and brew temp by lowering boiler pressure... I'll figure it out when it comes, i guess.

EDIT: apparently water is boiling here at 198.2 F, according to the latest barometric data and elevation. Hmmm...
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