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stealthes
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Joined: 9 Sep 2003
Posts: 58
Location: Detroit
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: Isomac Relax
Grinder: Nuova Simonelli MCI
Vac Pot: No
Drip: No
Roaster: Mail order
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005, 12:58pm
Subject: Re: Do I need a stepless grinder?
 

This thread just makes the case for a Nuova Somenelli MCI grinder even stronger. I've always wondered how stepped grinders can allow for the fine tuning of a shot that seems to be absolutely necessary. The Mazzer Mini is arguably the best grinder for home use but at $400.00 + it is expensive and does not fit under many kitchen cabinets.  The heavy duty build and consistent performance of the MCI, coupled with its 14" height make it a really attractive candidate. What really makes it a fine choice is the $ 240.00 price tag at Chris' and how beautiful it looks next to our Isomac Relax.

Stealth
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kaanage
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Joined: 31 Mar 2004
Posts: 1,452
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Bezerra BZ99, Gaggia...
Grinder: NS MCF, Imat Lux, Cunil...
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005, 7:01pm
Subject: Re: proper technique
 

Zaphod Said:

All of this is, of course, opinion but there tends to be agreement by most experts on the following:

The *only* variable one should use when tuning shot time is grind setting. Adjusting dose or tamp pressure does work to some extent but in a perfect world it should only be grind setting.

Posted March 21, 2005 link

In a *perfect* world, we would only need to adjust grind settings as beans age. Adjusting tamp or dose is just as valid as adjusting grind for small changes and teaches you to be flexible and adaptable in your approach.

Zaphod Said:

I'm anxiously awaiting my mazzer and getting ready to dump the rocky. It's a really good deal and if it'll fit in the kitchen then you should probably go for it.

Posted March 21, 2005 link

I guess this gives you a nice excuse for the upgrade but this forum shows too much conspicuous consumption at times.  Get a Mini E if you can afford it though. That is  better again than the doser models for home use.

Greg

 
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AlMac
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Joined: 18 Apr 2004
Posts: 507
Location: Australia
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Reneka Techno, Quaha...
Grinder: Mazzer Mini, Lux
Posted Mon Mar 21, 2005, 7:12pm
Subject: Re: proper technique
 

Zaphod Said:

All of this is, of course, opinion but there tends to be agreement by most experts on the following:

The *only* variable one should use when tuning shot time is grind setting. Adjusting dose or tamp pressure does work to some extent but in a perfect world it should only be grind setting.

Posted March 21, 2005 link

Unfortunately in the home there is always going to be some difference in the above so it's largely irrelevant, so the following happens anyway:

kaanage Said:

Remember that you can adjust dose as well as grind and tamp. If the shots are running just a bit fast, try dosing up a bit and tamp to the same force as normal.

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For my money Rocky or Mini - you'd be just as happy with either and will make great coffee with both.  My view is that for Mini you are paying for better build quality.  Equivalent grind quality starts around AU$245 for a Lux grinder.  As you go up in price you get better build - which you pay a fair price for which reflects that better build.
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