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Alberto
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Espresso: Solis SL-90
Grinder: Solis Maestro Plus
Posted Sat Jan 22, 2005, 7:59pm
Subject: Solis Crema SL-90 ?
 

OK, in my last post concerning whether to purchase a Miss Silvia and a Solis Maestro resulted in overwhelming response in favor of purchasing a better grinder. That is, consider the grinder first, the espresso machine secondary. I agree and will consequently increase the budget I was allowing for this.

Now, I do find the Silvia somewhat intimidating. She suffers fools and tyros poorly and is rather unforgiving of mistakes.

The Solis Crema SL90 has been recommended to me as a more forgiving machine, that can be used with the pressurized PF's initially until knowledge, practice and confidence level build up to move to the unpressurized ones, etc. Eventually, of course, one will mortage one's home, set a separate room with plumbing and install a professional machine until someone comes and hits you with a tranquilizer dart - but meanwhile....

How about that SL 90, which appears to be in the same price range and Miss Silvia the dominatrix?

 
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Tazzadoro
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Espresso: Expobar Office Control and a...
Grinder: Mazzer Mini & KitchenAid...
Vac Pot: Nicro, FlavorSeal
Drip: Zojirushi Fresh Brew
Posted Sat Jan 22, 2005, 9:36pm
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I also began with the SL-90 and feel it was an excellent choice for a beginner.  I have recently advanced to an Expobar, while keeping the SL-90 as a secure "lifeboat" for any eventual emergency. I actually feel the microfoam produced by the Solis was superior to that which I make on my Expobar.  Hopefully, with patience and practice, I will soon equal the microfoam I produced on the Solis.   One of the most important additions was my purchase of a Mini Mazzer.  This added greatly to making great drinks.

I would strongly suggest reading Marc's review of the SL-90 which you can find by doing a search on this site.
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Fred1
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Espresso: LaSpaziale S1 Mini Vivaldi...
Grinder: Mazzer Mini/NS MCF
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Drip: Chemex
Roaster: Hottop, FR+8
Posted Sun Jan 23, 2005, 7:56am
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Alberto,

The silvia is a tough machine to master, but, when you do she is capable of producing incredible espresso.  The SL-90 is much less intimidating.  Starting off with the pressurized PF (training wheels) then progressing to the non-pressurized PF when you are ready is a good plan.  You will probably get upgrade fever anyway and wind up with an HX machine or a dual boiler some day.  The SL-90 will provide a backup machine for you.  Just remember the good grinder so when you do upgrade, you will only have to change the machine.

Good luck,

Fred
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Alberto
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Location: Central Texas
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: Solis SL-90
Grinder: Solis Maestro Plus
Posted Sun Jan 23, 2005, 4:06pm
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Tazzadoro Said:

I also began with the SL-90 and feel it was an excellent choice for a beginner.  I have recently advanced to an Expobar, while keeping the SL-90 as a secure "lifeboat" for any eventual emergency. I actually feel the microfoam produced by the Solis was superior to that which I make on my Expobar.  Hopefully, with patience and practice, I will soon equal the microfoam I produced on the Solis.   One of the most important additions was my purchase of a Mini Mazzer.  This added greatly to making great drinks.

I would strongly suggest reading Marc's review of the SL-90 which you can find by doing a search on this site.

Posted January 22, 2005 link

Tazzadoro

Thank you. I searched and found two Marc's reviews, different Marcs and reviews. But good insights. Much appreciated.

Fred1 Said:

Alberto,

The silvia is a tough machine to master, but, when you do she is capable of producing incredible espresso.  The SL-90 is much less intimidating.  Starting off with the pressurized PF (training wheels) then progressing to the non-pressurized PF when you are ready is a good plan.  You will probably get upgrade fever anyway and wind up with an HX machine or a dual boiler some day.  The SL-90 will provide a backup machine for you.  Just remember the good grinder so when you do upgrade, you will only have to change the machine.

Good luck,

Fred

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Fred

Good advice. I like the analogy of the training wheels. Sounds like a good bike that I can ride after learning and building confidence without wheels. Keep a few years and move on to bigger and better....

 
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scubadoo97
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Espresso: Solis SL70
Grinder: Mazzer Mini & Solis Maestro...
Vac Pot: got one of those too
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Posted Sun Jan 23, 2005, 5:47pm
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I have a SL70 and can tell you with a good grinder these machines will produce very good espresso and the steaming is fantastic on the Solis machines.  Yes you can get good microfoam with very little experience.  The only problem I see with the Solis machines is you can not make multiple drinks for guests without spending a lot of time in the kitchen but this is a fault of all single boiler machines.   I also wish it had a full sizes portafilter.  You don't have to temp surf as much as with a Silvia.  I just run a blank shot and pull my shots when the ready light goes on.  If you go with a Solis get the non-pressurized filters.  I only use the pressurized one for cleaning or doing the portafilter wiggle.
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