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Kagy
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Posted Mon Jan 3, 2005, 11:41pm
Subject: Wega Lyra questions
 

I'm about to pull the trigger on my first decent espresso machine and have decided on the Wega Lyra automatic vibe version.  It's taken a lot of deliberation (waaay too much) and viewing posts on this forum but I have a couple of questions.

Will the Wega vibe machine will work on a timer?  I usually only drink coffee in the morning and I'd like to save on noise / electricity.

Also, how much louder is the vibe pump versus rotary?

Thanks in advance!

Kevin
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Posted Tue Jan 4, 2005, 12:42am
Subject: Re: Wega Lyra questions
 

First of all, congratulations on an excellent choice.  The Lyra won't disappoint.

A timer should be no problem at all.  Granted my Lyra is the semiauto version, but the additional electronics in the auto shouldn't be affected by a timer in any way.

As far as your noise concern, I don't think it's a big enough to deal justify spending the additional money.  I felt comfortable using mine in a studio apartment all hours of the night without fear of waking up the neighbors.  I'm not even sure that a volumetric pump would be quieter so much as maybe just less noticeable and rattle-y.
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Posted Tue Jan 4, 2005, 12:52am
Subject: Re: Wega Lyra questions
 

Kagy,

As soon as you receive your machine, let me know and I will send you all of your WWDP membership documents.

Timer should not be too much of an issue.  I keep mine on 24/7 since the machine's hot water tap comes in useful at all hours of the day.  

As for the pump noise, I have not heard a rotary pump in a home environment, but there are CG members that claim they are not as quiet as you might think.  From what I understand, they do make a fair amount of noise, but it sounds different than a vibe pump.  As Karl pointed out, probably not worth the cost differential.  Having said that, if and when my vibe pump dies, I may consider replacing it with a rotary, and mounting the new pump in my basement below my kitchen.  That way, the noise of the pump could be eliminated altogether.

In any event, congrats on the fine choise in machines - you will not regret your purchase.

 
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Posted Tue Jan 4, 2005, 1:20pm
Subject: Re: Wega Lyra questions
 

A timer will void your warranty.
Check with EPNW.

Tom
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espressoDOM
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Espresso: WEGA Lyra (vibe)
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Posted Tue Jan 4, 2005, 3:02pm
Subject: Re: Wega Lyra questions
 

FXDXT Said:

A timer will void your warranty.
Check with EPNW.

Tom

Posted January 4, 2005 link

if they ask...hehehehe

I did not have a problem when I had mine on a timer.... I did it for about 3 months b4 I realized I get up at all different hours and a timer is no good for my personal needs......I do not use it now.....
I actually took the case off my Wega and now it is quieter than my microwave....
CONGRATS on the new machine... we all love our WEGAs and I am sure you will also...

DOM (owner of the exoWEGA)

 
DOM...evil genius ...Up to no good in espresso at all times... VIVA la parts de Espresso
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Posted Tue Jan 4, 2005, 5:33pm
Subject: Re: Wega Lyra questions
 

My Wega auto rotary works fine on a timer -- there's no reason why an auto vibe should be any different.  A timer could present problems on a machine that isn't plumbed-in (e.g. somebody forgets to fill the water reservoir, and "oops"!), but otherwise I can't think of any reason why it should be a problem.  Plumbing it in is part of the charm of the Wega, especially with its excellent drip tray and drain.  

As for the noise, the Wega rotary is noisier than I expected, but that could be mitigated by a careful tuning of the body screws, and perhaps a few fibre washers.  For the ultimate stealth machine, one must remove the pump and mount it under the counter.  Hmmmmmmmm.  Sounds like a great mod for "exoWEGA"! Dom, you're always ahead of the curve!  ;-)

Rick
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Posted Tue Jan 4, 2005, 6:18pm
Subject: Re: Wega Lyra questions
 

It will work....yep it will......absoluty.

It will void your warranty, yep, it's true.

We have found that machines operated on timers have a reduced life of the control unit. The best solution is to put a relay on the power switch connection to the control unit and all is well.

The best way to maintain any espresso machine is to leave it up and running 24/7. It uses less energy than heating the machine from a cold start daily, and it will have reduced scale build up. Our reccomendation is to turn it on and leave it on, even if it is the pour over unit.

 
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Kagy
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Posted Tue Jan 4, 2005, 8:52pm
Subject: Re: Wega Lyra questions
 

Thanks so much for all the replies!  I'll probably just leave it on 24/7.  Now I just need to figure out where to order it.  Looks like there are 2 options - espressoparts or the dailygrind.   I know that espresso parts has them in stock.  The daily grind has the auto listed for 1350 which seems like a great price.  

Thanks again!

Kevin
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terryz
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Posted Tue Jan 4, 2005, 10:52pm
Subject: Re: Wega Lyra questions
 

Kagy,

I know a guy at espressoparts that might be able to facilitate a great deal ;-) seems to know the machine rather well.

 
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Rick
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Posted Wed Jan 5, 2005, 10:01am
Subject: Re: Wega Lyra questions
 

terryz Said:

It will work....yep it will......absoluty.

It will void your warranty, yep, it's true.

We have found that machines operated on timers have a reduced life of the control unit. The best solution is to put a relay on the power switch connection to the control unit and all is well.

Posted January 4, 2005 link

Terry, thanks for joining in.

Are you saying that machines operated on a timer are more prone to control unit failure than machines turned on and off manually each day, or that machines turned on and off daily by any means are more prone to failure?

Rick
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