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badson
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Posted Mon Dec 2, 2013, 5:13am
Subject: Repair help. I've broken my dads Gaggia Baby Dose
 

Hello everyone

I'm house sitting for my parents whilst they're away on holiday. First thing I thought I'd do was froth some milk for a cappuccino, and the first thing that happened was the coffee machine died.

It's completely dead, it wont power on at all.

From what I've read it's more likely to be a fuse than a thermostat. If it was a thermostat I'd more likely get a little bit of life before the thing died, and as I was frothing milk for some time (3 cups worth) a blown fuse makes sense to me. Am I along the right lines here?

My dad is a pretty comfortable with having the machine in bits and has replaces various parts in the past, so I don't think a fuse replacement would be too daunting for him, but rather than have him do all the work, I feel like I should at least order the replacement part so it's here ready for he's back from holiday.

This is where I'm stuck though, I don't know what type of fuse I should be buying, could anyone point me in the right direction, or even recommended a supplier in the UK? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted Mon Dec 2, 2013, 7:45am
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Are you saying that not even the power light comes on or that it is not getting hot?
3 cups of milk is a LOT to ask of that machine at one sitting, did you stop to fill the boiler between the cups steamed or did you just keep going until it turned off?

The boilers in these machines are very small, they need to be filled often with fresh water. When steaming, you are using up the water in the boiler and you need to replace it often. These machines are not designed to make more than one drink at a time and not large drinks at that. I think that 8 oz of milk at a time an not more than 12 oz at all is the limit for steaming without filling the boiler.

Are you seeing a theme in my thoughts?

Short answer is that you likely ran the boiler out of water then over heated the machine. I am pretty sure the heater is built into the boiler on that machine so the chance of burning it out is low but there is a safety thermostat that likely will need to be replaced. Item 29 on the following diagram.

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Posted Mon Dec 2, 2013, 2:27pm
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Yes the machine will not turn on at all, no inkling of lights no getting hot or anything.

And yes you're correct, I simply ran it for too long and it went off. Stupid I know, but I had no idea this would happen.

Part 29 in that diagram is the same part I identified through my research and the part I'm trying to locate.

Does anybody know a part number for this?
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Posted Tue Dec 3, 2013, 6:00am
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Hi,
if you have no power at all the first thing you should check would be the fuse in the mains plug. If that is ok then, as cal blacksmith says, the boiler has overheated and cut out so you'll need to check on the thermostat. However, once you've found said thermostat, have a look for a small red push button in-between the contacts. On this diagram
http://www.partsguru.com/user/ER0216%20Rev02.pdf
the part you are looking for is either 31 or 22. If there is a push button give it a firm push. If it has gone it will click down and then be quite loose.
Should any existing cut out button already be loose then you'll need to change the whole thermostat.

Another thing you may want to check is for a fast blow fuse on the main PCB (Printed Circuit Board).
see item 80 on the same diagram. A fuse about the same size as a household 13amp fuse only with a clear glass centre. You should be be able to see through the glass as to weather it has blown.
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Posted Tue Dec 3, 2013, 10:05am
Subject: Re: Repair help. I've broken my dads Gaggia Baby Dose
 

Is the circuit the machine is plugged into protected by a ground fault indicator.  If so, and it got tripped, it might just need resetting.  Then you reset the safety on the boiler and go through the priming process to get the machine back on line.

If there's no GFCI on the circuit, then check the breaker box (or are there other things plugged in to the same circuit that are working? Also, you could try plugging it in to a different circuit (typically, accomplished by taking it to another room in the house temporarily).

If these steps don't work, then you'll have to resume your search for replacement parts.

 
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Posted Tue Dec 3, 2013, 10:36am
Subject: Re: Repair help. I've broken my dads Gaggia Baby Dose
 

If I correctly got the parts diagram, the over temp fuse is a fuse and is not resetable but needs to be replaced. Some machines have a resetable over temp safety and they have a "red button" to push for reset.

 
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Posted Sat Dec 7, 2013, 9:08pm
Subject: Re: Repair help. I've broken my dads Gaggia Baby Dose
 

badson Said:

Part 29 in that diagram is the same part I identified through my research and the part I'm trying to locate.

Does anybody know a part number for this?

Posted December 2, 2013 link

Any shop that works on espresso machines of any brand will have thermo-fuses of that size.
Just read the temperature off the side of the dead one.
Potentially, take the dead one with you so someone can confirm it's dead (If you don't have a multimeter).
Or shop online One of many options .
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Posted Sat Dec 7, 2013, 9:39pm
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I think this is what you need:

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