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cherbhy
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Posted Thu May 6, 2010, 10:01pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

SteveSeattle Said:

Saeco Aroma & Silvia Steam Wand - Idea #2
Cut the wands to the desired lengths.  Thread both cut ends with a 1/4 x 28 threading die, external threads.  Join the two ends with a 1/4 x 28 internally threaded food grade stainless steel coupler.
Steve

Posted May 6, 2010 link

Are you positive about this sizing? I'm planning to take this approach and purchase a die handle + a few dies. Also, where did you find the "smooth style" coupling nuts?

Thanks,

Craig
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SteveSeattle
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Posted Tue May 11, 2010, 7:01pm
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cherbhy Said:

Are you positive about this sizing? I'm planning to take this approach and purchase a die handle + a few dies. Also, where did you find the "smooth style" coupling nuts?

Posted May 6, 2010 link

Attached is a sketch with dimensions.  It's not to any scale and only show relative measurements.  It shows wand outside diameter, inside diameter and thread measurements for 1/4-28 (cut in the wand).   According to this and in theory, it should be fine.  I'd appreciate an opinion.
Threaded couplers are available at a supply house that specializes in hydralic hoses and couplings.  Also check at a WhiteCap Construction Supply outlet if you live near one.  Steve

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Posted Fri May 14, 2010, 3:13pm
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This is awesome guys! I never expected so much discussion.  I'm eager to see how this turns out
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Posted Tue May 25, 2010, 9:02pm
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Any update on this?  Does the threading work, want to know for my saeco via venezia.
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Posted Tue Jun 1, 2010, 3:05pm
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Has anyone considered flipping the Silvia steam wand around?  Is it threaded on both sides so that you could do this?

Looking at this video of a modded Classico, it seems to be what this guy's done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qoFjmOSIUk

The "business end" of the wand might be a bit short, but since it articulates it might be ok.
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SteveSeattle
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Posted Sun Jun 13, 2010, 6:21pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

GraemeMcLaughlin Said:

Has anyone considered flipping the Silvia steam wand around?  Is it threaded on both sides so that you could do this?

Looking at this video of a modded Classico, it seems to be what this guy's done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qoFjmOSIUk

The "business end" of the wand might be a bit short, but since it articulates it might be ok.

Posted June 1, 2010 link

See the attached photo of a Silvia wand, each end is different, can't be reversed.  Articulated Rancilio wand is a whole other issue as more is required than just the wand.  That video of the hot rod Saeco continues to be a mystery.
Steve

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Posted Tue Feb 1, 2011, 1:25pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

Hi Everyone,

I have been a long time lurker and it is time for me to give back.  Attached is a pic of my aroma with a Silvia wand.  This is what I did.  You can bend the steam wand.  Just go very slowly and carefully.  I had some wood as soft-jaws in my vise.  Take out the first bend in the Silvia wand and straighten it out.  I just did it cold without heating it up.  Don't worry if it is not perfect since you can't see it anyways in the case of the aroma.  The rest you can play around with since everyone has their own preferences.  I do find the wand is a bit shorter then the panerello.  I haven't done it yet but the thread in the end seems at first glance to be a 10-32.  I put a tap up to the thread on the detachable tip and it seems about right.  This would make sense since a 10-32 machine screw works for the screen on the Silvia group head.  Find some one with a metal lathe and they can machine up an attachment out of some 304 stainless.  The material is not too expensive.  I bought two feet round stock for $7.  I would also suggest to not buy material smaller than 3/8 so you can also make an attachment for the larger tips also. Hope this helps.  Good Luck!

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Posted Tue Feb 1, 2011, 1:30pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

Great job and thank you!!!!

Does it articulate?  How is it connected inside the machine?

 
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Posted Wed Feb 2, 2011, 1:18pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

Your welcome.

The steam wand just spins like the original.  I just used the original nut and spaced it out with 3 o-rings.  Pretty much a direct bolt on.
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Posted Mon Sep 9, 2013, 9:46am
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia steam wand on a Saeco Aroma?
 

Thanks to all that posted for this great idea. I just ordered a new Saeco Aroma espresso machine from SCG. I would like to weld /braze the Rancilio Silvia ver.1 wand as designed by SteveSeattle. I also ordered the wand and have contacted a local metal fab shop in my area. Once the Saeco Aroma machine and the Silvia wand come in I will go to the fab shop to see if it's possible to do. If anyone has gone this route or tried another idea, like tap/die ideas, please post it with a photo. If this works out I will post any info I learned, cost of this mod, and photos. Thanks.
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