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Posted Wed Jul 17, 2013, 4:22am
Subject: Silvia V.3 Problem, seems stuck in "steam" mode
 

I have a Silvia V.3 with a Delta P.I.D. I just moved cross country and had boxed the machine up in original packaging and had it the back of my wagon for the drive. I had a minor problem for a couple days when I turned it on, the temp would rise like the steam switch was on. One flip on and off of the steam switch and it settled back to brew temp. Today it does not. The temp just keeps going up to the max 282. I'm not engineer, and not capable of diagnosing the problem like so many here. Any ideas? I decided to post a question here before taking the top off the unit and poking around.
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Posted Wed Jul 17, 2013, 5:19am
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Without any further information, it sounds like a wire connection may have shaken loose. Unplug the machine and pop the top, start looking at the steam switch for loose wires but there is no way to know if and where something is wrong. Good luck.

 
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Posted Wed Jul 17, 2013, 7:38am
Subject: Re: Silvia V.3 Problem, seems stuck in "steam" mode
 

Loose wire sounds probable. Was the PID cycling on and off normally. That is,when the temperature was rising did the PID turn off at its set brew temperature point? Was it displaying the correct temperature? Maybe the thermocouple is loose on the boiler and so the PID was reading a temperature far lower then the actual, boiler temperature so it was keeping the heating element on until the steam thermostat kicked it off.

EDIT - Or the thermocouple wires may have come loose where they are attached to the PID.

 
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Posted Fri Jul 19, 2013, 11:32am
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Thank you for the replies! Trying to settle into a new house and getting everything set up has been a test of patience. Had no email for 24 hours with reasonable explanation for that either.

I did pop the top off and looked for lose connections at the switches not long after I posted. Nothing obvious. While I had the top off I checked the red circuit breaker and tried to reset it, but it was not popped. I've also pushed all the buttons on the P.I.D. and didn't see anything out of sorts there. All seems normal.

As of today, it seems to be settling back in to normal behavior, with the exception that when I initially turn on the machine, the time rises 20 degrees over the desired temp and then settles in, where it used to rise 2-3 degrees above the desired temp. The temp also rises at a much, much, much faster speed than it did when I lived in CA. I see this same speedy rise in temp when I flip the switch for steam. I used to have a a routine with disposing of the used puck, flushing, and cleaning up and pouring milk to start steaming, and now have a third of the time I used to have to do those regular steps. I'm wondering now if the electricity is "hotter" here, and if that explains the new behavior.
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Posted Fri Jul 19, 2013, 11:36am
Subject: Re: Silvia V.3 Problem, seems stuck in "steam" mode
 

Thank you for the replies! Trying to settle into a new house and getting everything set up has been a test of patience. Had no email for 24 hours with no reasonable explanation for that either.

I did pop the top off and checked for lose connections at the switches not long after I posted. Nothing obvious. While I had the top off I checked the red circuit breaker and tried to reset it, but it was not popped. I've also pushed all the buttons on the P.I.D. and didn't see anything out of sorts there. All seems normal.

As of today, it seems to be settling back in to normal behavior, with the exception that when I initially turn on the machine, the time rises 20 degrees over the desired temp and then settles in, where it used to rise 2-3 degrees above the desired temp. The temp also rises at a much, much, much faster speed than it did when I lived in CA. I see this same speedy rise in temp when I flip the switch for steam. I used to have a a routine with disposing of the used puck, flushing, and cleaning up and pouring milk to start steaming, and now have a third of the time I used to have to do those regular steps. I'm wondering now if the electricity is "hotter" here, and if that explains the new behavior.
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