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Posted Thu Sep 20, 2012, 7:46am
Subject: Has anyone seen a polished Silva
 

I was thinking about putting a high polish on mine.  I have seen someone take brushed stainless and turned it into a beautiful mirror like finish.  I have search google and the forum trying to find a picture.  I think it would look great but I wanted to see it.  Yes I know the amount of work this takes.  That's not a bad thing since all I have is time and love a good challenge.  Let me know if anyone has seen this.

If I had to guess at what it looks like I would pick an Isomac Venus.  That unit has the squared side and boxy front.  Let me know if I am on the right track.

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Posted Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:22am
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haven't seen anyone do that, but I don't see how it can be different than polishing any other brushed stainless surface.  In fact, since the machine has flat sides, it might be "easy".  Certainly, it's going to take a very long time, even if you use something much larger than a Dremel, but hey...it's your time, not mine.  Me, I'd rather spend my time making improvements to my technique and learning more about espresso minutia.

 
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Posted Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:42am
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emradguy Said:

Me, I'd rather spend my time making improvements to my technique and learning more about espresso minutia.

Posted September 20, 2012 link

I don't work anymore so I have a day full of nothing to do.  Totally empty schedule.  Improving my technique and learning more, I currently do that, but I can't fill everyday with it.  Tinkering with things keeps me busy and productive.  See when I said I have nothing but time I wasn't kidding :)
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Posted Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:49am
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I know from my work and connections from machine shops that there are businesses that do nothing but polish metal, they usually have good prices, they will know the best and fastest way to do the job and the best part is that if you don't like the finished work, ....... you have someone else to blame! :D

 
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Posted Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:01pm
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Haha, I like being able to blame someone besides me for a change.  I think I will do that next week, see what a local shop would charge or if they will point me in the right way since it's a small job (famous last words).
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Posted Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:15pm
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I'm totally envious of your free time!  I wish I could explore all of my hobbies to their fullest.  Someone said to me recently that if I won the lottery and retired, that I'd get bored doing just my hobbies, but I am more than certain I would not.  To name a few...woodworking, kung fu, espresso pursuits, and cooking.  Oh, there are so many other things I'd like to dabble in...ah, but I digress...I was thinking...I did polish a carving knife that the professional sharpener scratched (bastard).  I must say, I was rather pissed off, as it was an 8" carver from my Wustof "dream set".  Anyhow, I used the polishing pad with my Dremel and some #6 high gloss compound to get the scratch out, and it actually went rather quickly.  What I found most difficult was getting the shine uniform though.  I'm wondering if I had spent more time on it, would it have come out better, and if I would have gone over it by hand at the end, would that have produced prettier results?  Maybe one day I'll have the time to try the latter.

Please post some pics of your polished Silvia afterwards.

 
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Posted Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:28pm
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Hmmm...Where can I pick up this #6 compound?  I have the pads sitting around.  What I will do first is take off the cup warmer lid and polish the underside so if it goes completely wrong it's hidden on the inside.  If it works well I can get a larger pad for a bench grinder and just go slow and take my time.  I will also jump on "that popular video site" and look at some polishing videos.  That's where I got the idea from. Some guy was polishing a semi-truck stainless gas tank.  He used an angle grinder and did like a 12x12 section in less than 5 minutes.  Then again, he has probably been doing it for 20 years, so his speed won't be anywhere near my speed.

Like I said I'll give that small spot a go tonight or tomorrow when I get that #6 compound.  I will be sure to show you a photo of what it did and how hard it actually was to do the small spot.
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Posted Fri Sep 21, 2012, 5:49am
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Ron, my guess is that the reason the finish was not even was due to the size of the pad you use on a Dremel tool. This is a VERY small pad and I doubt that with many more hours of work, you would have had much different of a result.
Polishing compound comes in many grits. The thing to remember when polishing is that when you change to a finer grit, you need to rotate the work 90 deg and continue to polish until you remove ALL the marks from the prior grit. they are easily seen as you are working 90 deg to them. You continue to go finer and finer until you achieve the desired result.

there is only so much you can do with home tools, they are just not designed to do big jobs. Unless you want to spend many times the labor doing it yourself with small tools, you need to invest in tools that can do the job. This is part of the advantage the polish shop has over working at home, they have the tools to do the job quickly AND to a higher standard than most can achieve at home.

 
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Posted Fri Sep 21, 2012, 10:56am
Subject: Re: Has anyone seen a polished Silva
 

Just picked up some materials to start.  I picked up 1000, 1500, and 2000 grit 3M high end wet/dry paper.  I went to an auto paint supply house.  We called the 3M rep from there and he said start with this.  I will see how close the 2000 gets.  If I can't use a liquid polish at 2000 grit then I will go back and pick up the 3000 then see where I'm at again.  A few local custom car painters are the ones that told me to go to 2000 then a liquid metal polisher to smooth it out and get rid of the haze.  I spoke to a custom cycle shop and that's how he does it also.  I will be doing it all by hand, no power tools.  Yes this will take me much longer but as strange as it seems, I enjoy tinkering and I will appreciate the end result that much more.  I'm not in a hurry so why rush.  I thought about having someone do it for me but the cost doesn't seem worth it.  Besides if I do the work and get a scratch a year from now I will know how to polish it out.
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Posted Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:17pm
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good points Wayne.  The compound I used was a thick paste, almost a wax really.  I bought it at Lowe's or HD - can't remember which.  For high grit woodworking, I use micro-mesh, which goes to something sick like 20,000 grit.  Not sure if you can use it on metal though.  I bought mine at Rockler, but it is also available at Woodcraft and other woodworking specialty shops.

 
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