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mojoneill
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Posted Mon Aug 20, 2012, 2:59pm
Subject: [Silvia] Screw-snapping streak continues.  This time, the high temp thermostat
 

Major bummer.  I had the high-termp. thermostat torqued thumb tight into the new boiler and figured, "well, I should take the wrench to it."

Bad idea.

Its post has sheared off about 1/4" down...  I have a micro-screw extractor on order...but I'm not sure it's going to fit.  

I think someone needs to hit me upside the head for being an idiot.  Usually my wife is eager to do this, but she doesn't want any involvement in this rebuild whatsoever.

(any ideas for screw extraction or something else are welcome)

So, if you're working with this part, remember: FINGER TIGHT!

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stefano65
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Posted Mon Aug 20, 2012, 4:05pm
Subject: Screw-snapping streak continues.  This time, the high temp thermostat
 

well the extractor will be the possible best BUT you are right needs to be pretty small
I personally have one that small, but the main concern will be drilling the pilot hole for it without messing the boiler,

option 2 very carefully re drill and re tap a new hole

option 3
find a long, spring with rounded ends
stretch it, make a little bracket with some spring body and use thermal conductive grease/paste for the best contact (well use it anyway no matter which solution you can come up with) if you ever seen a older marzocco steam boiler safety thermostat that's the idea of option 3
or a way to go around the diameter of the boiler with something "wirey"
I'm sure somebody else might come up with some other solutions
but this is my monday afternoon brain consumed thoughts

 
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mojoneill
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Posted Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:15pm
Subject: Re: [Silvia] Screw-snapping streak continues.  This time, the high temp therm
 

Well, it's fixed now.  

I bought this set of micro screw extractors from amazon.  I was able to back the broken screw back almost flush with the face by using an ice pick/awl.  After that, the largest screw extractor in the micro set linked above did the trick and got the rest out.  

I did have to buy a cheap drill with a very low speed.  My regular variable speed drill was impossible to hold at a slow enough speed for the extractor to work.

In the photo below you can see the broken high-temperature thermostat, the broken end of the screw I pulled out of the boiler, and the boiler itself.  All is right with the world now.

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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2012, 12:55pm
Subject: Re: [Silvia] Screw-snapping streak continues.  This time, the high temp therm
 

I'm glad you got it out. Not everything requires a wrench .... as you found out. If I remember, that is a blind hole that does not go through into the water side of the boiler. All the threads are there for is to hold the sensor on, not to seal anything. Looking at the screw first, before you screw it in is a good way to decide on how much torque needs to be applied, not much on a small brass screw like that!

Congrats again!

 
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mojoneill
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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2012, 5:58pm
Subject: Re: [Silvia] Screw-snapping streak continues.  This time, the high temp therm
 

@calblacksmith  Thanks for the well-wishes!  You remember correctly, that's a blind hole...there's no entrance into the boiler interior...and yeah, I'm an idiot.  In my defense, however, the high-temp probe does have a bezel fitted for a wrench.  For someone like me who doesn't know what he's doing (and yeah, that's the crucial part), that screams, "Take a wrench to me."  It's only in retrospect do I look at the diameter of the screw and wonder, "WTF did I take a wrench to THAT!"  :P

I hope this is how we learn and that this is a mistake I won't be repeating. :P

-Michael
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