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firefighter124
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Posted Sun Aug 5, 2012, 8:30pm
Subject: Re: Auber PID on a new Gaggia Classic
 

Thanks Fred. No, didn't find your email. Really don't know where to look. Talk about being a newbie lost in outa space! LOL
I'm new to this site also. Only joined a few days ago.
The email you sent me previously had a typo in it when I joine CG. I fixed it after you told me it was bounced back to you.
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D4F
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Posted Sun Aug 5, 2012, 8:42pm
Subject: Re: Auber PID on a new Gaggia Classic
 

No problem.  You will enjoy the PID.  There must be a newer Gaggia Classic run with different color wiring than on the Auber stuff.  They reference since "2006," but the new ones seem different.  Just tried your email again.

 
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Calendar
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Posted Mon Aug 6, 2012, 8:04am
Subject: Re: Auber PID on a new Gaggia Classic
 

I wired my classic with an Auber PID last week. I bought the machine NIB on eBay, so I thought it was a post 2006 model, but it wasn't. Regardless, the colors of my wires were different than the pre-2006 pictures shown in the install guide - though my variations were in the T-stat wiring, not the power leads.  Suyi at Auber says wire colors vary on these machines.  I'm sure he'll help you straighten it out, as he did for me as well. I'm going to guess you want to tap #9, same position/different colors as in the pics. But you should talk to him, obviously.

I'm happy with the unit. My Silvia wand is en route and I'm close to completing my upgrades.
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D4F
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Posted Mon Aug 6, 2012, 9:17am
Subject: Re: Auber PID on a new Gaggia Classic
 

PID, Silvia wand, and OPV and then you are set.  

Calendar, saw your question on HB, welcome to CG.  Without help of the steam switch you get something like below, up to 18F drop during a shot.

Click Here (www.afonic.org)

 
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Posted Mon Aug 6, 2012, 9:34am
Subject: Re: Auber PID on a new Gaggia Classic
 

Thanks - yes I've spent some time with that chart!

I guess the obvious point is for Classic users to design their shots for 1.5-1.75 oz.  I asked that question on HB as I'm skeptical that the drop is that much. I've just started playing around with getting measurements from the styrofoam cup method, which of course is quite non-scientific.   So, I was curious what Andy's real-world numbers looked like with his setup, though I know his machine isn't PIDed.
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Posted Mon Aug 6, 2012, 9:56am
Subject: Re: Auber PID on a new Gaggia Classic
 

Of course you will need a thermofilter to watch the shot, intrashot.  I think that the study data is probably quite real-world except most of us use a few seconds of steam switch prior to the shot which will blunt the drop.  The 3 way will not allow steam switch intrashot unless you rewire.  Rather that change this thread on wiring a PID, you may want to read here.

http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machinemods/571792

 
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Posted Mon Aug 6, 2012, 7:07pm
Subject: Re: Auber PID on a new Gaggia Classic
 

So, up and running?

 
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firefighter124
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Posted Tue Aug 7, 2012, 9:38am
Subject: Re: Auber PID on a new Gaggia Classic
 

No, not yet. Been bogged down at work.
Not good when work gets in the way of my hobby! LOL
I did talk to Suyi at Auber tech support yesterday though. Got some good info from them and will try to get some time to start the install.
They were very helpful and cleared up a few things for me.
Thanks for asking....

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