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Dainty
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Posted Sun Jun 10, 2012, 2:24am
Subject: Changing the 3 hole tip on my V3 Rancilio Silvia?
 

I have a Rancilio Silvia V3. It's my first and only espresso machine and I have had it since 2008 I think.

I have tried and tried and tried to learn to create microfoam on it. And it's just not happening. I have read every guide out there and seen every YouTube video...

So I today accidentally came across an old post in here where people were complaining about the 3 hole tip Rancilio used to have on the V3 and yes, that's the one I have.

Would it make sense to try to change it? Or do I just suck at making microfoam?

How much difference does the 3 hole do? I have a constant feeling that there is not enough power in the steamer.

Is it my technique I should change?

And if I were to change the tip how do I go about that? I am in the EU.
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Posted Mon Jun 11, 2012, 3:57pm
Subject: Re: Changing the 3 hole tip on my V3 Rancilio Silvia?
 

Well, if you are having issues after all this time, you might try plugging one hole at a time with a toothpic to see if you have better luck with fewer holes. Toothpics are cheep and easy to get so see if this works better for you.

 
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Posted Tue Jun 12, 2012, 2:03pm
Subject: Re: Changing the 3 hole tip on my V3 Rancilio Silvia?
 

Dainty Said:

Is it my technique I should change?

Posted June 10, 2012 link

Impossible to say without knowing exactly what you're doing.  Do you have a video?
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Posted Tue Jun 12, 2012, 2:34pm
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calblacksmith Said:

Well, if you are having issues after all this time, you might try plugging one hole at a time with a toothpic to see if you have better luck with fewer holes. Toothpics are cheep and easy to get so see if this works better for you.

Posted June 11, 2012 link

That is a great idea. Thanks. Can I just plug in regular toothpicks or do I have to make any precausions?
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Posted Tue Jun 12, 2012, 2:36pm
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takeshi Said:

Impossible to say without knowing exactly what you're doing.  Do you have a video?

Posted June 12, 2012 link

No - sorry. And I am mostly just confused now I think... Because I have tried just about anything and any tutorial out there, and the bloody thing never works like people describes...

Mostly I am able to get some level of microfoam but it is foam on the top and more liquid at the bottom. And I never seem to have enough steam power to get any... sorry whats the english word (english is not my native tonque...) Swirling? Or spinning? in the jug
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Posted Tue Jun 12, 2012, 2:50pm
Subject: Re: Changing the 3 hole tip on my V3 Rancilio Silvia?
 

Dainty Said:

And I never seem to have enough steam power to get any... sorry whats the english word (english is not my native tonque...) Swirling? Or spinning? in the jug

Posted June 12, 2012 link

I think the word you're searching for is Vortex.

Is there a coffee house near enough your home that maybe you could hire a barista to come over for an hour or so to teach you?

 
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Posted Tue Jun 12, 2012, 2:54pm
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emradguy Said:

I think the word you're searching for is Vortex.

Is there a coffee house near enough your home that maybe you could hire a barista to come over for an hour or so to teach you?

Posted June 12, 2012 link

Thanks :)

I have been to a Barista class at a very good local coffee house. Had absolutely no problems at their machine, which was of course a professional machine. It would be very very pricy here. Would be way cheeper first to try a new tip, that is why I am hessitant to do it. I have thought of it.
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Posted Tue Jun 12, 2012, 7:57pm
Subject: Re: Changing the 3 hole tip on my V3 Rancilio Silvia?
 

No, about special tooth picks, just break them off long enough so you can grab them to pull back out!

 
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Posted Wed Jun 13, 2012, 2:22am
Subject: Re: Changing the 3 hole tip on my V3 Rancilio Silvia?
 

calblacksmith Said:

No, about special tooth picks, just break them off long enough so you can grab them to pull back out!

Posted June 12, 2012 link

Thanks! I will try that
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Posted Wed Jun 13, 2012, 9:30am
Subject: Re: Changing the 3 hole tip on my V3 Rancilio Silvia?
 

When I had my Silvia v1, I upgraded it to the v3 wand that was for sale on chriscoffee.com.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the articulating wand CCS sells to upgrade older Silvia's is identical to the stock one coming on v3s. The 4 hole steam tip that came with it was just fine for me to make excellent microfoam.  With you having been to a training course in a professional shop, I would suspect you know what you're looking for, so my thought now is...it's either your steam tip or your technique. If it's your technique, and you feel like your at the end of your ability to improve, it sounds like you either need to post a video or get someone to help you live.  Your resaults with the toothpick piece(s) in place will be tell tale...so please report back.

 
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