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Posted Sun Mar 25, 2012, 10:12pm
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The water softener plumbed in directly under the sink...saw no reason to keep it near the pump and it was easier to hide here.

(I used a T fitting off the fitting that went to our kitchen sink so that nothing had to be cut, or a clamp placed on it, that my landlord may not appreciate)

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Posted Sun Mar 25, 2012, 10:13pm
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I than ran 3/8in tubing using compression fittings on each side from the water softener to the espresso machine, with some mildly creative techniques to make it look reasonable and where the cat cannot put a claw into it.

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Posted Sun Mar 25, 2012, 10:23pm
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connecting to the pump i bought from ebay and finally to the espresso machine.

Is it just me or is this an oddly long procon pump?, It works fine it just looks funny to me.


Once this was all connected and mostly leak free I tried powering it up. It heated up much quicker than I had expected
and although the gauge looks pretty bad and will be replaced (or some how cleaned up and re-mounted) it seemed to work.
I did however turn it off at just over 1 bar because I was having steam leaking out of another dozen locations. One of the worst was the
glass level gauge, attempting to be careful I tried to tighten this further...unfortunately I was not careful enough (or I should have simply replaced
it to begin with as the rubber seals were clearly dried out). Either way I am now waiting on my second parts order to repair the level gauge and try
to fix the remaining leaks.

I do have to ask. Why does everyone advice against Teflon tape?? i find that most of the brass to brass threaded connections are leaking and require
Teflon tape to stop. I am now going back through all these leaks and simply adding Teflon tape, which is a tedious process.

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Posted Mon Mar 26, 2012, 1:12am
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l8nightCaffeine Said:

I do have to ask. Why does everyone advice against Teflon tape?? i find that most of the brass to brass threaded connections are leaking and require
Teflon tape to stop. I am now going back through all these leaks and simply adding Teflon tape, which is a tedious process.

Posted March 25, 2012 link

Do you mean copper on copper connections?

The reason you dont use teflon tape is that these are compression fittings. The threads only hold the inner flange tightly against the connection and do not seal it.

If these connections are leaking then they're either too loose or there is another problem.

You can tighten them more after the machine has been warmed too.

 
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Posted Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:57am
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JtothaR Said:

Do you mean copper on copper connections?

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Nope, the compression fittings are all doing ok, or like you said only take a little tightening.

However connections such as the HX. (in this machine the HX tubes are part of the boiler, and there are "end caps" which then connect to a copper pipe.) These kind of connections where it is just threading on each side are leaking.
Another example is the brass connection into a flow meter where there is only thread.
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Posted Mon Mar 26, 2012, 8:06pm
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Hmm.... pictures?

 
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Posted Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:39pm
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Here are the HX tubes with the "end caps" removed. (I have no idea what else to call them, please correct me if there is a better name.)

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Posted Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:41pm
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Here is the boiler with the HX "end caps" back on but no copper piping yet.

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Posted Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:46pm
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With the flow meter, it is not truly brass to brass, but instead aluminum or stainless steel? to brass threading. Both of these locations gave me lots of trouble as there were no o-rings or any type of sealing, until I added Teflon tape.  


The HX may not have needed Teflon if brand new "round copper washers" were used. I am guessing they flatten to create a better seal, I ordered a new set of them when i ordered a new level sight glass to see if that would avoid the large amount of Teflon tape required for a tight seal, at the right angle.

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Posted Wed Mar 28, 2012, 8:27pm
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So i got all the major leaks fixed. It still hisses out of two locations. What i understand to be the vacuum-breaker or Anti-depression valve, and where one of the steam wands connects to the boiler. The steam wand is a simple fix, just poor angles now that everything is back in the frame.


Unfortunately the vacuum-breaker was not so easy, i am not sure if it was a result of over tightening, or tightening when hot and the different metals causing issues. Either way the threading got stripped pretty badly, I was able to extract it with unscrewing while pulling with vice grips. Luckily the fixture was ?half-height? meaning that it only used half the threading on the boiler, so that it only destroyed half the threading.

so this is what the threading now looks like.

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