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Posted Thu Mar 8, 2012, 12:36pm
Subject: Help! Oscar no water from the group head
 

Well, I let my oscar sit for a long time this morning.  I got busy.  Anyway, not water is not coming out of the group head.  Steam is there I steamed 2 pitchers of water till boiling in case there was a vapor lock.  I heard the boiler fill when I turned it on.  I hear some faint noise when I engage the water button but it is not pumping out it is like the back flush is in already and there is nothing.  I even removed the screen.  If the boiler fills the pump has to still be working right? I am letting it cool off so I can pull it apart and check stuff.

So, based in this thread
http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machines/539317
I am guessing I have a bad 3way valve.

 
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Posted Thu Mar 8, 2012, 2:28pm
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If it was my Gaggia that's exactly where I'd start. That alternates back and forth between connecting the boiler to the pump, and connecting the boiler to ambient (the blow-off tube or whatever you want to call it) to relieve the pressure. I don't know your machine but I can't imagine the concept is much different.

Before you buy a valve though, check that it seems to be getting power (either on or off depending on what button you have pressed). There's a chance your button / switch is messed up and the solenoid isn't getting power to begin with. And it's probably a much cheaper fix if that's the case.
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Posted Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:43pm
Subject: Re: Oscar not pulling water
 

I can't get the valve off because it seems to be on with some strange allen wrench thing and not a screw.  Anyone have any ideas what size or type so I can go to the hardware store and not have to drag the machine with me?  How can I test the pump there was no water in the hose to the solenoid?  It is new so I don't believe it is the pump and I have heard it filling the boiler.

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Posted Fri Mar 9, 2012, 3:10pm
Subject: Re: Help! Oscar no water from the group head
 

I got the valve off with help and opened it up and it doesn't look clean but it doesn't seem to be in bad working order to my untrained eye.  Stefano said the coils are normally fine but now I am not sure what is out.  I guess I will replace both just to save shipping costs.

 
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Posted Fri Mar 9, 2012, 3:34pm
Subject: Re: Help! Oscar no water from the group head
 

After playing with the valve for a while I believe it was stuck down when I took it apart. I am now cleaning the valve and will try putting it back together and testing before I order new parts.

 
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Posted Fri Mar 9, 2012, 4:43pm
Subject: Re: Help! Oscar no water from the group head
 

Well, so far so good. Cleaning the valve seems to have fixed my problem.

 
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Posted Mon Mar 12, 2012, 1:52pm
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Great! Much cheaper than replacing it. Stuff like this (the valve) I always figure it's worth a try to fix it, worst case scenario you still have to buy a new one.
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Posted Mon Mar 12, 2012, 4:56pm
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Thanks for your help. You were the only one that cared!

 
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Posted Wed Mar 14, 2012, 7:03am
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Well - I don't think there's many people surfing here to start with, and even then I'm sure there's a lot of coming and going. For a week or two people will check threads daily, and then forget about it for a few weeks, then come back, and repeat that. Seems to be how it goes.

You probably found a dead period, or no one else had any idea what the problem might be?
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Posted Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:21am
Subject: Re: Help! Oscar no water from the group head
 

I was just being silly.  Don't mind me.

 
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